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The Admiral couldn't lead the US to Gold? SHAMEFUL
sons I'm sure you are all looking forward to the Olympics this season. whether its for the basketball, Misty May's ass bouncing all over the place in beach volleyball, Michael Phelps hittin' the bong and still spanking everyone in the pool, etc. .... but since this is a basketball board I came across some interesting history regarding team USA. the United States is obviously the most dominate country in the world when it comes to basketball (most notably over the last 30 years), but with that said our teams have came up short on a couple of occasions over those last 30+ years and embarrassed the entire country.
1988 and 2004
Those two years were horrible for the U.S. team as we had to watch our country take home the pathetic bronze medal after years of dominating and taking home the gold (1984, 1992, 1996, 2000, and on to 2008, etc.). 1988 and 2004 were the only years the U.S. mens team has ever had to settle for the bronze. now what is most interesting about this fact is that the San Antonio Spurs are tied to this sad part of U.S. Olympic history because despite the 1988 and 2004 games being 16 years apart from one another, they both were led by San Antonio Spur greats David Robinson (1988) and Tim Duncan (2004).
now maybe some of you were already aware of this interesting fact, but it was new to me and I'm sure many others as well. Those were two very embarrassing and low moments in U.S. Olympics history, but thankfully we were able to rebound and go back for Gold. David Robinson was allowed back on the U.S. team to ride the coattails of the likes of MJ, Magic, and others in 1992 and 1996. However Tim Duncan was no longer welcomed on the U.S. team after his epic failure as team leader of the 2004 team. He was not on the team in 2008 despite only being 31 years old, and is obviously not welcomed on the team this year in 2012.
The Admiral couldn't lead the US to Gold? SHAMEFUL
Yes, i agree... Eric Gordon is a wimp and Kobe is a chucker and a fraud.
lol "not welcome". He didn't want to play. If he wanted to play, they would have found a spot for Tim.
really? you do realize that Duncan was still young in 2008? yet they didn't want him. only a fool would think that him leading the team to bronze in 2004 had NOTHING to do with him not being on the team. no other "star" player or supposed "best" at their position would have ever left that type of unfinished business out there especially considering Duncan was only 31 in 2008, and could still compete in this years Olympics. even as much as I can't stand Kobe or LeBron, at least they helped the U.S. get the job done in 2008. LeBron was apart of that disgraceful 2004 bronze medal that Duncan led them into, but he didn't leave unfinished business out there, he came back at got the Gold.
lol, Duncan was already 32 in 2008. Their most senior player, Kobe, turned 30 in the Gold Medal game. How is that young?
As usual, BR dropping truth bombs.
I thought Duncan said he didn't want to do the Olympics again after getting butt ed by argentina and puerto rico in 2004.
We should be fine this year, plenty of talent. In 2004 we had poor leadership and 1988 was when we could only put amateur players on the court still.
In 1972 we got ed by the refs. So we periodically get ed in the Olympics every 16 years.
The players on that 2004 team, coupled with the fact that a toxic player like Allen Iverson was a co-leader led to the demise of the team. Timmy D actually had a good statline considering the cluster roster make up of that team. 15.6 ppg, 8.0 rpg, 1.56 bpg, while shooting 60.7 percent from the field.
What type of p****y wouldn't WANT to play for Team USA if given the chance?
Agreed, Tim would've been picked over Carlos B
Again you forget the FIBA world championships in 2002 and 2006. In the period 2002-2006 USA team was a disaster. Duncan only played in 2004. That's the truth.
ummm son the age excuse is lame. to name a few ...
2012 Olympics
- Kobe Bryant is 33 years old
2000 Olympics
- Tim Hardaway was 34 years old
- Gary Payton was 32 years old
- Steve Smith was 31 years old
1996 Olympics
- John Stockton was 34 years old
- Charles Barkley was 33 years old
- Hakeem Olajuwon was 33 years old
- Mitch Richmond was 31 years old
1992 Olympics
- Larry Bird was 35 years old
- Magic Johnson was 33 years old
numerous players well over the age of 30 have competed for team USA, with the majority being star players. Duncan is the only star player in U.S. team history to leave unfinished business on the table after ting the bed in 2004 with a bronze medal.
USA usually don't give a about FIBA, even back when they were dominating in the pre-professional era, they lost half the time. Why would they care? They already qualified.
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2004 was Tim and a bunch of not-yets and never-weres. Kobe should have been on that team and those two would have won gold. But Kobe was in legal trouble from his Colorado rape. So Tim had to try and win gold with Iverson and Marbury.
Of course Tim gets a bye on 2004 given his HOF NBA career.
just props to Kobe Bryant at his age STILL wanting to honor his country and play in the Olympics. Tim Duncan gets his ass whipped one time and he goes running with his tongue ring between his legs...
son will you listen to yourself!!! LOL
- Iverson was coming off of averaging 26ppg and leading the NBA in steals in 2004
- Marbury was coming off of averaging 20ppg and 9apg in 2004
AND
- you're ignoring the fact that Amare Stoudemire, a young Dwyane Wade and Carmelo Anthony, and oh yea the rookie of the year LeBron James were also on that team in 2004.
don't use the "but..but...but Timmy didn't have enough help!" excuse. are you kidding me???? he had more than enough help to beat ing ITALY AND ARGENTINA!!!! lolz
Opening its training July 26, after 15 practices and six exhibition games, the U.S. opened the Olympics against Puerto Rico on Aug. 15. Facing a team they had defeated three times and by an average of 23 points a game in 2003, and a team the U.S. had beaten by 25 (96-71) in Jacksonville 16 days earlier on July 31, 2004, the USA's frigid 34.7 percent shooting from the field spelled trouble as Puerto Rico opened up a 22-point lead at halftime and then fought off every U.S. comeback attempt to earn a decisive 92-73 win. Lost in the loss was Duncan's inspired effort of 15 points, 16 rebounds (11 offensive), five steals, four assists and two blocked shots in 36 minutes.Regrouping two days later, the USA behind 17 points by Iverson, who was playing with a fractured thumb on his shooting hand, fought off host Greece and its boisterous home crowd 77-71 to get its first win. Continuing preliminary round play on Aug. 19, the U.S. fought tooth-and-nail with Australia for three quarters, then outscored the Aussies 24-12 in the fourth quarter to earn an 89-79 victory and improve to 2-1. USA co-captains Iverson and Duncan paced the U.S. Duncan finished with 18 points on deadly 7-of-11 shooting, and grabbed 11 rebounds, AI added 16 points, while Marion made 8-of-10 shots and scored 16 points also.Facing unbeaten Lithuania on Aug. 21, a team that had challenged the USA in the 2000 Olympic semifinals before ultimately falling short by two (85-83), the USA led 84-79 with just over three minutes to play, but was unable to hold on as Lithuania made big shot after big shot to rally back for a crushing 94-90 victory. Jefferson led the USA effort accounting for 20 points, while Duncan posted his third double-double in four Olympic games, compiling 16 points (6-7 FGs) and 12 rebounds. Two days later, the U.S. again bounced back from a loss and easily defeated an overmatched Angola squad 89-53 to close out preliminary round play as Duncan recorded a team leading 15 points in just 13 minutes of action.The USA as a team ranked second among the 12 Olympic teams in scoring, averaging 88.1 points a game. Grabbing 38.9 rebounds a game, the U.S. ranked first in rebounding and outrebounded its opponents by an Olympic best margin of 10.8 rpg. (38.9 rpg. to 28.1 rpg.). The U.S. also ranked first in blocked shots (3.75 bpg.) [mostly due to the presence of Duncan], first in assists (15.13 apg.) and steals (10.63 spg.), and ranked second in turnover margin (+3.00).Iverson established a new single game mark for 3-point shots attempted, launching 10 versus Puerto Rico to pass Reggie Miller's previous record of eight (versus China,7/26/96), and Duncan's 16 rebounds against Puerto Rico tied the USA single game record of 16 set by Jim Brewer (versus Australia, 9/28/72).
Duncan tied the U.S. mark for most rebounds in an Olympics with 73 (9.1 rpg.), equaling the mark set by Kevin Garnett in 2000.Duncan was doing work, tbh. His teammates were jacking up bad shots.Iverson FG%: .378
Duncan FG%: .567
so the next time any of you Spur fan want to say "LOL Italy" .... the joke is really on you because Italy took home the Silver medal that year while Duncan as team leader of the U.S. led our country to the ing bronze.
LMAO at the "inspired effort" crap.
son that's like those kids in elementary school sports who all get a medal for participating!
the bottom line is that Duncan had his chance in the Olympics and completely the bed. I mean really? Argentina and Italy beat us????
Looks like Duncan was just stat padding instead of being a leader to the team.
They jacked up bad shots and were horrendous at passing the ball around.
Anytime you have a backcourt consisting of ball stoppers like Marbury and Iverson, you have the potential to lose...much more so in international basketball which is a different type of basketball played (moving the ball on offense and playing zone). International teams rely on team chemistry and moving the ball -- something that 04 team was incapable of doing.
Argentina and Italy beat out Duncan's U.S. team. sons you can lawyer up and try and spin it however you want, but those are the facts. Duncan was the legit leader of our team that year and he couldn't get it done. honestly it just showed even more proof that he is a product of Pop's system in San Antonio. if you put him on any other team he would just be an above average big man, but in San Antonio Pop knew how to use him.
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