Has anyone noticed that women nowadays...

[DMC]

So you deny...

All known and proud of it.

A gay football coach wouldn't work?
A gay man would never be elected President?
A gay NFL QB would never work?
All religions are against sexuality?

Eh?

[DMC]

of course it matters who wrote the Bible.

Different thread but I disagree.

[Avante]

Avante is a Muslim who believes in the Koran.

I'm not a Muslim.

Who believes in the Koran????????????????????????????? Dude, people kill themselves over what is written there, are you really this ing stupid?

[MannyIsGod]

Once upon a time people said there would never be a black football coach or a black president. So about that never business.....

[DMC]

I'm not a Muslim.

Who believes in the Koran????????????????????????????? Dude, people kill themselves over what is written there, are you really this ing stupid?

People kill themselves over grunge band songs.

[Avante]

Probably a few out there already.
Good evidence there have been one or two.
lol "work"
Entirely false.

Missed the..KNOWN..moron. So would a ..KNOWN...coach/QB/President work?

[Avante]

People kill themselves over grunge band songs.

That was ing stupid. People most certainly believe in the Koran, you also don't know that?

[ChumpDumper]

I'm not a Muslim.

Who believes in the Koran????????????????????????????? Dude, people kill themselves over what is written there, are you really this ing stupid?

Why would you bring it up if you don't believe what it say about sexuals?

[ChumpDumper]

Missed the..KNOWN..moron. So would a ..KNOWN...coach/QB/President work?

Sure -- in time. Once people like you die off.

[DMC]

That was ing stupid. People most certainly believe in the Koran, you also don't know that?

There are different levels of belief.

[Blake]

Different thread but I disagree.

this thread is long gone. Why do you disagree?

[Avante]

Why would you bring it up if you don't believe what it say about sexuals?

Ever heard of...illustrating a point? The Koran makes it very clear that sexuality is a sin. You are aware of what many gays have experienced in an Islamic world, right?

[Avante]

Sure -- in time. Once people like you die off.

So all those billions and billions and billions of people who came before us were wrong, all these people living today are wrong, hahahahaha!!!!!!! Do you think at all before posting? There will never come a time when it's not....OH YUCK!!!!!!!!!..over two gay dudes getting it on, it's gross.

[Avante]

There are different levels of belief.

There are different levels of everything. You love your dog, right? You also love your mom, two totally different degrees there.

[Blake]

Ever heard of...illustrating a point? The Koran makes it very clear that sexuality is a sin. You are aware of what many gays have experienced in an Islamic world, right?

and that makes the Islamic world right?

You are just as ignorant as they are.

[Avante]

and that makes the Islamic world right?

You are just as ignorant as they are.

You do know the Christians share that same opinion, right? So everyone is wrong/ignorant but you? Why do I doubt that? You might be cool with men sucking , few others are. You might be cool with..."I'm gay dad"..few others would be. Save the..."I'd love him anyway and yakyakyak"...yes, we all would but it's not what you wanted.

[Blake]

So all those billions and billions and billions of people who came before us were wrong, all these people living today are wrong, hahahahaha!!!!!!! Do you think at all before posting? There will never come a time when it's not....OH YUCK!!!!!!!!!..over two gay dudes getting it on, it's gross.

Argumentum ad populum.

[Blake]

You do know the Christians share that same opinion, right? So everyone is wrong/ignorant but you? Why do I doubt that? You might be cool with men sucking , few others are. You might be cool with..."I'm gay dad"..few others would be. Save the..."I'd love him anyway and yakyakyak"...yes, we all would but it's not what you wanted.

are you cool with chicks sucking , or does your only belong in the baby maker?

[Avante]

are you cool with chicks sucking , or does your only belong in the baby maker?

Oh yes, just like I'm cool with women wearing panties and bikini's. Put those on a man A man wearing perfume?

[ChumpDumper]

Ever heard of...illustrating a point? The Koran makes it very clear that sexuality is a sin. You are aware of what many gays have experienced in an Islamic world, right?

So you believe in the Koran's teachings about sexuality, like any devout Muslim. I understand.

So all those billions and billions and billions of people who came before us were wrong, all these people living today are wrong, hahahahaha!!!!!!! Do you think at all before posting? There will never come a time when it's not....OH YUCK!!!!!!!!!..over two gay dudes getting it on, it's gross.

Who said anything about those professionals getting it on? You think about that way too much unsolicited to be that grossed out by it.

You do know the Christians share that same opinion, right? So everyone is wrong/ignorant but you? Why do I doubt that? You might be cool with men sucking , few others are. You might be cool with..."I'm gay dad"..few others would be. Save the..."I'd love him anyway and yakyakyak"...yes, we all would but it's not what you wanted.

As a practicing Muslim, are you supposed to love them anyway?

[TubThumper]

You looking for a date too?

Are you asking me out on a date?

[ChumpDumper]

Are you asking me out on a date?

I'm sure sbm has many questions for you.

[TubThumper]

I'm sure sbm has many questions for you.

Always thinking about SBM? You must be obsessed.

[Blake]

Oh yes, just like I'm cool with women wearing panties and bikini's. Put those on a man A man wearing perfume?

Muslims think oral sex is yuck.

Oral sex between a husband and wife is considered as Makruh Tahrimi by the jurists, since there is strong possibility that by ejaculation, Mazi occurs and enters the mouth of the partner. There is consensus amongst the Fuqahaa that Mazi is Najis (impure)

http://www.central-mosque.com/fiqh/OralSexInIslam.htm

Sucks for you

[Ginobilly]

I have made very clear how I am using the word "natural" in the context of this argument. As has everyone else in this thread. If you were to do the same (coherently and consistently) we actually possibly could go somewhere with this. Getting somewhere, however, has never been your goal in this thread.



So, then, you have sex with women because you love women. The people you love determines the type of sex that you have. Your attraction to women is not, then, a choice you made based on the desire to be a parent.



If you're attempting to build an argument around a particular term -- in this case your argument against sexuality is based upon it being unnatural -- then, yes, you need to have a definition of that term that is clear and concrete. It is impossible to figure out what you mean by "natural" because the way you have used the term has been unclear and inconsistent.



Okay. And we get to call you out for doing so.



It's phobia to dislike and/or be bothered by gay people and their assumed behaviors/activities for no reason other than its difference. It's phobia to be as preoccupied as you clearly are with what gay people do in the bedroom. Further, it is also phobia to jump through such extensive hoops as you have in order to manufacture a medical/biological argument against sexuality in order to justify your personal discomfort.



You can't proclaim you were born a heterosexual when trying to argue that you made a conscious choice to be attracted to women.



Not always. There are plenty of sexuals who deny their own attractions and who therefore do not participate in " sexual activity." There are also plenty of people who engage in " sexual activity" (which I assume based on your previous posts you're defining in terms of sex acts) but who aren't gay. I'm thinking prisons and porn here, for example.

I remember being attracted to women since like 5 or 6 years old. I used to bathe with my female cousins in the nude and would get hard when we would show each others privates, but I couldn't understand why because you don't know the definition of gay or straight at that age. You just know that you like boobies and ass but can't understand why. Lets end this conversation once and for all!

My gut feeling is that the genes that control your hormone levels, determines your orientation. Think of smell. When we dudes go searching for females, the smell in the back of their necks and breast area is just intoxicating to a guy. The way the vagina smells without washing it, is a natural smell that guys like too(just not too fishy). I disagree with you on your opinion that straight people could do sexual activity and not be gay. First of all, if your straight, you wont be getting hard in front of a dudes ass no matter how much money your offered or if a gun is pulled to your head. My opinion is that those dudes who engage in that are gay/bi. They're just in denial! I also hate the stereotype that all gays are intellectual and have a masters, nice people, etc. There are some gays that are big and tough and like to molest smaller straight weak males: in prisons, public schools,etc.