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Ryan's a pretty good player. Hornets can possibly make the playoffs this year.
Im not a stats guy, but I posted this once before so are you saying this guy is full of ? I searched on google and this is what popped on the third entry in the Duncan vs. Malone debate ...
Argument fror the best power forward of all time: (via Salt Lake City hoops)
The case for Karl Malone as the best power forward of all time:
When you look at Karl Malone’s stats compared to Tim Duncan it is hard to make the case that Duncan is a better player that Malone. Why? Because it is hard to make the case that many players are better than Karl Malone by looking at the stats. He is 2nd all time in career points and 3rd all time in win shares (an estimate of the number of wins contributed by a player) with more win shares than everyone but Kareem and Wilt. Tim Duncan would need 6 more years of his average production to equal Malone. As it currently stands he is still isn’t within shouting distance of the Mailman. However, any Duncan supporter might bring up the fact that of course Malone’s career numbers would be better because he played 19 seasons. If we take that away and just compare averages here are some points in favor of Malone:
•Scoring: Malone averaged 25 points per game. Duncan 21.1.
•Efficiency: Malone shot 51.6% from the floor and 74.2% from the line. Duncan’s respective numbers; 50.8% and 68.7%.
•Reliability: Malone’s work ethic and incredible conditioning was legendary and that shows in the numbers. He played in 99.3% of the Jazz possible games during his 18 year career in Utah . Duncan so far with San Antonio has only played in 94.5% of the possible games. Over an 82 game NBA season that means that Malone would play in about 4 more games than Duncan.
•Longevity: The same conditioning led him to be able to play for so long at such a high level. Not to say that Duncan can’t do that, but let’s see if he is still playing as effectively as Malone was when he was 39 and still contributed 11.1 wins (10th in the league) to the 2002-2003 Jazz team.
•Front line help – Sure this is a little subjective, but I think that playing with the Greg Ostertags and Felton Spencers of the world didn’t help Malone quite as much as playing along side David Robinson helped Duncan.
Oh andat win shares. It does point at Kareem as the GOAT who I think is severly underrated by many ... that being said any stat that puts Malone over MJ much less Duncan ... is suspect.
Last edited by Killakobe81; 07-08-2012 at 07:28 PM.
Ryan's a pretty good player. Hornets can possibly make the playoffs this year.
The article and the logic behind is flawed. Longevity is the only reason Malone has more win shares than Duncan. That's why Kareem has the most win shares because he played more games than just about everyone.
But if you look at win shares per 48 minutes in the regular season, Duncan is 11th all time at .214 while Malone is 18th at .205. In the playoffs, Duncan is 10th all time while Malone is 69th. Even though, Jordan is number one in both the regular season and playoffs, its still not a perfect stat obviously. For example, D-Rob is 2nd all time in the regular season, and 9th in the playoffs. He's a great player and hall of famer, but he's definitely not a top 5 or top 10 player all time.
Malone only 69th? Wow, he really was a bit of a choker
Seems like it. I think playing into his 40s hurt as well, but it does seem like he didn't bring it in the playoffs.Malone only 69th? Wow, he really was a bit of a choker
The top 5 all time in the playoffs are Jordan, Mikan, Lebron, Magic, and Dirk.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/..._career_p.html
Exactly, crap. the per 48 min. stuff is supposed to help but it still has flaws. Look Anderson is a good player but he is tsill being overpaid not grossly like many of his peers but a bit over paid none the less. But the way I see it:
Hornets in:
Anderson
Davis
Rivers
Hornets out:
Ariza
Okafor
Kaman
That is a win because even with Anderson's contract they save money and still increased the talent level.
Son, now "per 36" are good enough? Not serious, tbh
I don't think Anderson is overpaid. For his production, he's worth 8.5 million per year which is his salary. Its actually 4 years 34 million. But the bigger question is, should a rebuilding team like the Hornets sign a really good complementary player? If Davis and Gordon pan out as the Hornets hope, then it will be a good signing since Anderson can complement them well. Honestly, I wouldn't have done it. Once FA started, I didn't think the team should have gone after guys like Batum, McGee, Dragic etc since those guys are complementary players at best. I think Anderson is better, but still at best he's a great complementary player. That's why Orlando gave him up easily. The team is banking on Davis and Gordon as the cornerstones. They were lucky the Wizards were stupid enough to take Okafor and Ariza off their hands. Freed up a ton of space. Even with Gordon and Anderson on the roster, the Hornets will be 21 million under the cap next offseason. They're gonna try to land a big FA next offseason.
Jordan GOAT
Mikan = codified the game
Lebron and Dirk = carried weakass teams into the Finals
Magic = GOAT PG
They also got younger.
Crying Ryan. That's what this contract is going to make NO fans do after a while. HORRIBLE contract. Possibly the worst of the off season so far along with the Jeff Green contract IMO.
Last edited by Ice009; 07-08-2012 at 10:22 PM.
Sons, BRHornet can relax now, because this is good news for him, tbh...
The Cornerstone is coming back to NOLA, B!David Aldridge @daldridgetnt
Late night reiteration, per source: the Hornets’ acquisition of Ryan Anderson will not stop them from matching Eric Gordon’s offer sheet
More great news for BR:
BR is gonna cut himself if that's true
Hasn't improved at all since his second year.
sons if the Hornets let Belinelli walk then I may be at a loss for words. I am very excited about this season, but the fact that it is taking them so long to lock him into a multi year deal is downright absurd. Dallas and San Antonio are pushing for him the hardest, along with Chicago, NY Knicks, and Charlotte showing interest as well. Beli is going to go where the money is no doubt and I don't blame him, but we need him in NOLA along with Rivers to build for the future.
If the Spurs sign that got I'll join in BR's suicide pact tbh.BR is gonna cut himself if that's true
More shooters!
Gonna be heartbreaking to see Beli get that ring the second the Spurs lock him up.... Beli, Parker, and Too Tired Timmy > Lebron, Wade, Bosh
He may be better then some of you think.
I like the Davis/Anderson frontline...but that contract will fall back on them!
DPG never gets bored of being wrong imho, non-hornets fans dont watch enough hornets game to know how good ryan anderson is, doubt any of them who thought dude got overpaid has ever watched him play even on TV.
if dude's indeed a better player than Okafor, he's definitely worth that money tbh
Anderson and Okafor don't even play the same position, tbh
Okafor's an orthodox big, Anderson's a stretch 4 or even a tweener forward.
oh wait... he played in orlando my bad, so they're paying 9m a year to someone who lived basically his entire life in the shadow of Dwight Howard, can't help but
sounds like a matt bonner/steve novak style of player
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