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tell us what martin was stealing.
be specific
So if you think you spot the guy burglarizing the area, just pretend nothing is wrong if he's young? Is that your message?
tell us what martin was stealing.
be specific
do you suggest people call 911 on everybody they see walking down the street? how would I know what the guy burglarizing looks like?
sounds like paranoia
I see you have a bad memory. I suggest you refresh yourself on the burglary incidents in the area.
No. I am not saying he was stealing. I am saying there was reason to be su ious on unknown people in the area, especially if he was looking in people's windows.
That's not how it works, dolt. Zimmerman hearing that some black kids had been stealing is no excuse for him following every black kid walking down the street. And yeah I am sure Martin was going up to the houses up to the windows and seeing if any were open.
Better keep those eyes forward or Zims gonna come get you.
he's ing lying about him looking in windows.
also, i guess you're suggesting that if george doesn't know them it makes them unknown.
all this bull talk about george embracing people of color.......yet he managed to ignore the martins.....that live there.
Wow...
If you were there and saw the whole thing develop, then you should make yourself available as a witness.
You never told us you saw everything happen. How else would you know he's lying?
there's only 2 things known for certain.
george killed the kid and george is a liar. these 2 things are undeniable.
Everybody lies at times. It most certainly doesn't mean he lied about everything.
Are you really using that as the reason to say he's guilty? Pretty pathetic reason if you ask me.
you're so ing stupid, pretty pathetic if you ask me.
george lied to the judge right out of the gate. so did his wife.
they're bottom feeders, which explains your support for them.
Um... saying "no honey that dress doesn't make you look fat" is a little different than lying to a judge in court.
It's a theory, but there was no mention of that when the prosecutor interviewed DeeDee the girlfriend about their phone call. She never says anything about it and he never even asked. Nothing she says suggests that was a possibility at all, and she's supposed to be crucial to destroying GZ's self defense claim.
BTW, if anybody hasn't listened to that interview with a transcript yet, you should. It's a disaster. It's one leading question after another.
Wow...
I located the interview and listened to it. Doesn't look good for Trayvon. She says he's by his place, but two minutes later is out of breath and not going to run? Then the altercation happens?
Found the video of him at the 7-11 also. He probably couldn't run worth a anyway wearing his pants like a prison faerie.
another gem from wc's thoughts.
good, you agree that he stood his ground and got killed by his stalker.
Never heard the gf's interview tbh. Will have to find it.
This interview? yup, looks like zimmerman followed a frightened child.
PROSECUTOR: I want to focus on that day, February 26, when you know obviously he was unfortunately killed, and I’m sorry to ask you about this. But did you have conversations with him that day?
GIRLFRIEND: Yes.
PROSECUTOR: At some point did you find out that Trayvon was going to the store?
GIRLFRIEND: Around 6 something.
PROSECUTOR: OK, and did he tell you what store he was going to?
GIRLFRIEND: No. He just said [inaudible] store.
PROSECUTOR: OK, did he say why he was going to the store?
GIRLFRIEND: Yes.
PROSECUTOR: What did he say he was going to the store for?
GIRLFRIEND: Yeah, his little brother. Some food and some drink.
PROSECUTOR: OK, yeah, tell me what happened as he’s talking to you when he’s leaving the store on his way back home.
GIRLFRIEND: It started raining.
PROSECUTOR: It started raining, and did he go somewhere?
GIRLFRIEND: Yeah, he ran to the, um, mail thing.
PROSECUTOR: I’m sorry what?
GIRLFRIEND: Like a mail, like a shed.
PROSECUTOR: Like a mail area, like a covered area, because it was raining? So did he tell you he was already inside, like, the gated place?
GIRLFRIEND: Yeah. He ran. That’s when the phone hung up.
PROSECUTOR: I’m sorry?
GIRLFRIEND: The phone hung up and I called him back again.
PROSECUTOR: And what else did Trayvon tell you?
GIRLFRIEND: And like—-
PROSECUTOR: And I know this is difficult for you but just take your time and tell us what you remember happened.
GIRLFRIEND: A couple minutes later, like, he come and tell me this man is watching him.
PROSECUTOR: OK, did he describe the man that was watching him?
GIRLFRIEND: Yeah, he said white.
PROSECUTOR: OK, did he say whether the man was standing, sitting…?
GIRLFRIEND: He was in a car.
PROSECUTOR: He was in a car? And what did he say about the man who was watching—-
GIRLFRIEND: He was on the phone.
PROSECUTOR: He was on the phone? OK, and what did Trayvon say after that?
GIRLFRIEND: He was telling me that this man was watching him, so he, like, started walking.
PROSECUTOR: He, Trayvon, started walking?
GIRLFRIEND: He gonna start walking. And then the phone hung up and then I called him back again. And then, I said, ‘What are you doing?’ He said he’s walking, and he said this man is still following him, behind the car. He put his hoodie on.
PROSECUTOR: He, Trayvon, put his hoodie on?
GIRLFRIEND: Yeah, ’cause, he said, it was still a little bit dripping water so he put his hoodie on. So I said, ’What’s going on?’ He said, this man is still watching from a car. So he about to run from the back. I told him, go to his dad’s house. Run to his dad’s house.
PROSECUTOR: Go to what?
GIRLFRIEND: Run to his dad’s house.
PROSECUTOR: To his dad’s house?
GIRLFRIEND: Yeah. So he said he was about to run from the back, so the next that I hear, he just run. I can hear that the wind blowing.
PROSECUTOR: So you could tell he was running at that time? OK. And then what happened?
GIRLFRIEND: Then he said, he lost him.
PROSECUTOR: He lost what, the man?
GIRLFRIEND: Yeah.
PROSECUTOR: So was Trayvon, at that time, you could tell he was, like, out of breath, like excited?
GIRLFRIEND: Yeah.
PROSECUTOR: OK. Take your time, I know this is difficult for you.
GIRLFRIEND: So he lost him. He was breathing hard. And by the sound of his voice, his voice kind of changed.
PROSECUTOR: Who, Trayvon’s?
GIRLFRIEND: Yeah.
PROSECUTOR: OK. What do you mean by that? His voice changed?
GIRLFRIEND: [inaudible]
PROSECUTOR: I’m sorry?
GIRLFRIEND: I know he was scared.
PROSECUTOR: I know what you are trying to tell me but if you could describe to me how you could tell he was scared.
GIRLFRIEND: His voice was getting kind of low.
PROSECUTOR: So you could tell he was emotional, like somebody who was in fear?
GIRLFRIEND: Yeah.
PROSECUTOR: He was breathing hard?
GIRLFRIEND: He said he had lost him and he was breathing hard and I told him ‘Keep running.’
PROSECUTOR: So Trayvon said he started walking because he thought he had lost the guy?
GIRLFRIEND: Yeah.
PROSECUTOR: OK.
GIRLFRIEND: I said, ‘Keep running.’ He said he ain’t gonna run. ‘Cause he said he is right by his father’s house. And then in a couple minutes he said the man is following him again. He’s behind him. I said, ‘Run!’ He said he was not going to run. I knew he was not going to run because he was out of breath. And then he was getting excited, the guy’s getting close to him. I told him, ‘Run!’ And I told him, ‘Keep running!’ He not going to run. I tell him, ‘Why are you not running?’ He said ’I’m not gonna.’ He was tired. I know he was tired.
PROSECUTOR: I am sorry, Trayvon said he was not running because—-he’s not going to run he said because you could tell he was tired? How could you tell he was tired?
GIRLFRIEND: He was breathing hard.
PROSECUTOR: Real hard?
GIRLFRIEND: Real hard. And then he told me this guy was getting close! He told me the guy was getting real close to him. And the next I hear is, ‘Why are you following me for?’
PROSECUTOR: OK. Let me make sure I understand this so, Trayvon tells you the guy is getting closer to him and then you hear Trayvon saying something.
GIRLFRIEND: Yeah.
PROSECUTOR: And what do you hear Trayvon saying?
GIRLFRIEND: ‘Why are you following me for?’
PROSECUTOR: ‘Why are you following me for?’
GIRLFRIEND: Yeah.
PROSECUTOR: And then what happened?
GIRLFRIEND: I heard this man, like an old man say, ‘What are you doing around here?’
PROSECUTOR: OK, so you definitely could tell another voice that was not Trayvon and you heard this other voice say what?
GIRLFRIEND: ‘What are you doing around here?’
PROSECUTOR: ‘What are you doing around here?’ OK.
GIRLFRIEND: And I call Trayvon, ‘Trayon, what’s going on? What’s going on?’
PROSECUTOR: This is you saying that?
GIRLFRIEND: Yeah. Then, I am calling him and he didn’t answer.
PROSECUTOR: No answer from Trayvon?
GIRLFRIEND: Yeah. I hear some like ‘bump.’ You could hear someone had bumped Trayvon. I could hear the grass.
PROSECUTOR: OK. So you could hear there was something going on, like something hitting something?
GIRLFRIEND: Yeah. I could hear the grass thing.
PROSECUTOR: Out of the…?
GIRLFRIEND: Yeah.
PROSECUTOR: OK, and then what happened?
GIRLFRIEND: And then, I was still screaming, I was saying, ‘Trayvon! Trayvon!’
PROSECUTOR: And there was no response?
GIRLFRIEND: Yeah and then the next thing the phone just shut off.
PROSECUTOR: The phone shut off?
GIRLFRIEND: It just shut off.
You can listen to the recording at Democracy Now here
martin beat him up while holding a phone.
sure he did.
I could hear the grass.
Could be. It would be interesting to see two phone records to compare times. I don't think her testimony helps when she says that Martin started saying he was not going to run. I get her explanation, he was tired and scared, however, it would be easy to use this to support a theory that Martin decided he was going to confront Zimmerman. Afterall, he was not too tired to kick the crap out of Zimmerman or too scared to run away once actually confronted, if Zimmerman confronted Martin.
The girlfriend lost all credibility with me when she waited a month to report it only after being contacted/coached by the Martins attorney.
He had those hands free ear plugs. The police found them in his pockets.
It was that statement right there that really made me question this whole thing. That's a completely worthless statement and the state never even followed up on it for strong details. She's an ear witness listening on a cell phone... but she can break down the logistics of a fight? There's no way you can tell who physically initiated things over a cell phone with any degree of certainty at all.GIRLFRIEND: Yeah. I hear some like ‘bump.’ You could hear someone had bumped Trayvon. I could hear the grass.
so, now martin's ears are in his pockets?
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