Ludden: Tim Duncan re-signs (3 years, $30M), Patty Mills re-signs, De Colo signs

[silverblackfan]

Its great news and I will be loving seeing Timmy playing for 3 more years. Nice to hear that De Colo and Mills are signed too. At the very least, we have the same team that made it to the WCF and won 20 games in a row. Not too shabby.

[Hoops Czar]

Obviously they believe De Colo has potential to be a good player and believe another one of their guards (most likely Neal and Joseph) are easily expendable and wouldn't be missed all that much. Why wouldn't that make sense to you?

They have 4 guards ( not including Joseph) as it is, 3 of which can play pg, Neal being the odd man out. I don't see the point in rushing a player with "potential" to the NBA so he can sit on the end of the bench for the spurs when he can be gaining experience overseas. I still think Neal is a valueable contributer on the offensive end and no current guard on the roster can knock down clutch shots with consistency and under pressure from long range more than Neal. If possible, I'd like to keep him through the season.

[siraulo23]

cool

now we're just waiting for that physical center

[Brazil]

That's it. The part of your post that I bolded is impossible under the CBA.

Mel with the goods per the course per the usual

[TD 21]

Great news.

Even if Spurs won't likely win a le with Duncan, it's really nice to be able to see him at least a couple of years. I'm waiting to see details of his deal but at the end it doesn't really matter. Duncan is staying, that's cool.

Mills and De Colo signed is too a good news because both should be cheap. Saying Spurs have a true logjam of guards. There will likely have a trade.

Precisely.

Here's a three way trade I concocted: Blair to the Hornets (who only have three rotation bigs) for next year's 2nd, then Neal with the 2nd to the Bucks for Sanders (with Udoh and Henson, he's redundant and has no chance at cracking their big rotation; plus they were interested in Hinrich, so they'd obviously like another guard).

That clears out the logjam at guard and gives the Spurs the type of athletic, shot blocking big -- who can play both big positions -- that they need.


As for Duncan's contract, despite what some idiots may say, this is a really good deal. I wouldn't have thought he'd sign for 3 years initially, but it's quickly become all the rage now with the over 35's in the league, so at this point I'm not that surprised by it. Championship or no championship, it's nice to know he'll be around for another three years.

'Tres, I was thinking the same thing with Ginobili, only for $20-22M.

[TDMVPDPOY]

'Tres, I was thinking the same thing with Ginobili, only for $20-22M.

isnt manu currently on 10m a season? no way i resign him to 20/2...fck that , he either has to come back for half the price then we can start talking....

[TD 21]

isnt manu currently on 10m a season? no way i resign him to 20/2...fck that , he either has to come back for half the price then we can start talking....

He's scheduled to make $14, 107, 092 next season. There's no way they'd even have the audacity to offer him $5M and no way he'd except either. Despite his fragility and limited minutes played, he's no worse than the fourth best shooting guard in the league. He'll probably go from the highest paid (annually) of the big three to the lowest paid, once again, but he's still going to get something close to the other two. At this point, in terms of on court value, there's not much separation between any of them. So if the other two are at $12.5M and $12M respectively, then he's got to be in that ball park.

[Mel_13]

isnt manu currently on 10m a season? no way i resign him to 20/2...fck that , he either has to come back for half the price then we can start talking....

Manu will be the highest paid Spur this season at 14.1M

[Marcus Bryant]

Lifelong Spur

[rjv]

if we try to get another big i'd imagine we would have to trade blair, joseph and someone else. can't see getting too much in return there.

[Dr. John R. Brinkley]

Blair needs to go for his sake. Bonner needs to go for the team's sake. But the Spurs don't do drastic moves unless it's a complete disaster, which it isn't yet.

They're both good team guys who came from a "winning culture" of the Spurs. It's possible they could be traded for a malcontent-knucklehead-big man project on lottery team, but obviously that comes with its own risks...assuming there's even any interest.

That dude with the chicken neck on the Twolves would fit that player profile, and I could see Adelman wanting quality role players who are coachable to help the team move forward, but does anyone see Pop wanting to deal with another Jackie Butler type?

If they can find an undrafted project they like, then I could see the team be willing to dump Blair or Bonner for whatever they can...but then that's still a longshot of finding a new project and then finding trade partners, which most likely were already attempted and failed during the days leading up to the draft.

For this season it looks like another Bonner sandwich in this regard.

[Libri]

Manu will be the highest paid Spur this season at 14.1M

Do you see him resigning for a couple of seasons and staying until Tim retires?

[sehui]

Precisely.

Here's a three way trade I concocted: Blair to the Hornets (who only have three rotation bigs) for next year's 2nd, then Neal with the 2nd to the Bucks for Sanders (with Udoh and Henson, he's redundant and has no chance at cracking their big rotation; plus they were interested in Hinrich, so they'd obviously like another guard).

That clears out the logjam at guard and gives the Spurs the type of athletic, shot blocking big -- who can play both big positions -- that they need.


As for Duncan's contract, despite what some idiots may say, this is a really good deal. I wouldn't have thought he'd sign for 3 years initially, but it's quickly become all the rage now with the over 35's in the league, so at this point I'm not that surprised by it. Championship or no championship, it's nice to know he'll be around for another three years.

'Tres, I was thinking the same thing with Ginobili, only for $20-22M.

Blair just for a 2nd rounder? Sounds like a bad deal on our end..why didn't we just do this this year's draft then?

[Mel_13]

Do you see him resigning for a couple of seasons and staying until Tim retires?

Will depend on how this season goes. If he stays healthy and can still compete at a high level, then sure.

[J_Paco]

Great to have Timmy back in the fold!!!!

Now, they need to trade some dead weight (Bonner & Blair) and bring in a couple of athletic 4/5's to backup Splitter, Duncan and Diaw. I'd like them to see take a chance on Henry Sims, while he'd spend most of the season developing in Austin.

What are the chances the Spurs can bring in Sims and Green? Is it a matter of roster space or can they feasibly make such a move???

[temujin]

Blair just for a 2nd rounder? Sounds like a bad deal on our end..why didn't we just do this this year's draft then?

If the second rounder is Cleveland's rights to Milan Macvan, I'd do immediately.
A Bonner, with balls and rebounding.

[TD 21]

Blair just for a 2nd rounder? Sounds like a bad deal on our end..why didn't we just do this this year's draft then?

A high 2nd rounder (probably within' the first five picks) is probably the best they can do at this point. If they could have done better, I'd imagine they would have at the draft. Who knows, maybe they were offered a high 2nd at the draft and turned it down, but now realize they can't do better, so they relent. Things change.

I'd like to think his value is slightly higher than that too, but there's no indication that it is. So they need to take what they can get for him and Neal and move on. This trade helps accomplish that and addresses a need.

[Vic Petro]

Blair just for a 2nd rounder? Sounds like a bad deal on our end..why didn't we just do this this year's draft then?

A high 2 next year doesn't necessarily equal a high 2 from this past draft. 2012 was considered a very deep draft and teams may have been more reluctant to part with 2nd rounders given the talent that remained on the board throughout the round. Next year's draft is much more of an unknown, so teams may be more willing to part with their picks.

[spursnatic]

So with Tim D taking a significant pay cut and with all of our other additions...How much do we have left to spend on other worthy Free Agents?...I hope we can get someone Good...And finally stop giving a about hurting Bonners feelings?...

[baseline bum]

A high 2 next year doesn't necessarily equal a high 2 from this past draft. 2012 was considered a very deep draft and teams may have been more reluctant to part with 2nd rounders given the talent that remained on the board throughout the round. Next year's draft is much more of an unknown, so teams may be more willing to part with their picks.

Yeah, guessing you're not getting Quincy Miller in the second in next year's draft.

[Mel_13]

So with Tim D taking a significant pay cut and with all of our other additions...How much do we have left to spend on other worthy Free Agents?...I hope we can get someone Good...And finally stop giving a about hurting Bonners feelings?...

Minimum contracts from here on out.

[objective]

Minimum contracts from here on out.

hmmmm.

Is there a list out there of likely candidates for mid-season buyouts?

[Mel_13]

hmmmm.

Is there a list out there of likely candidates for mid-season buyouts?

Identify teams that will have given up all hope of making the playoffs by mid-February . Then go down the rosters and find past their prime vets on expiring contracts.

http://www.shamsports.com/content/pa...ries/index.jsp

So, I'd start the guessing for bigs with Diop.

[Knoxxx]

Do you see him resigning for a couple of seasons and staying until Tim retires?

I think Manu and Jax reup for about $5 million per year and two years, after their big contracts expire this year.

[DesignatedT]

Jack's contract should be pretty valuable come trade deadline season depending on how the Spurs feel he's playing and how the teams doing.