Trayvon Martin - black kid armed with skittles killed in "self-defense" - Part 1

[Wild Cobra]

Enjoy your win WC.

I will. If all you can do is poke and prod at me, then I see you have run out of valid arguments.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I was only responding in kind to the term "crazy white people."

What about the riots after the Rodney King incident? Do whites ever do such things?

Are you saying a large population of blacks don't get scare when someone talks about reducing social benefits?

Talking about more taxes on the productive is scary. Why should those who are productive subsidize those who aren't?

For me, it's not a black vs. white issue. It's a culture issue for me. The hard facts are simply that more black people fall into that social class that wants the government handouts.

Hispanics tend to accel rather well in this nation after a generation or two. They have work ethics. Blacks tend not to. Hatred of what happened in times of slavery seems to be the key reason they don't accel. The ones that get past the past, and actually use work ethics to build a better future, without letting their prejudices hold them back, do in fact accel.

The people to blame for holding blacks back are the likes of Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, etc. They maintain the hatred. The make people believe it is the white man's fault instead of telling people to stand on their own two feet, and ignore what others say about limitation. Limitations are primarily in one's own mind. Sure, there are still some racists out there, but not enough to hold a good man down. Problem is, there are very good black men. Too many are petty and full of hatred, without having the capacity to strive past their own racial bias.

I'm not sure 70% is the right number, but I agree it's more than half the crimes, and what are they? something like 12% the population? Then they wonder why people are cautious around them.

Message to all the black leaders.

Lead your own people into being good citizens before complaining about us white people.

I say racism will always exist as long as the members of a particular race don't police their own actions.

The Jacksons and Sharptons of this world need to stop blaming the white man, and blame their own people for presenting themselves so poorly to the rest of us.

Very true. It's sad that so many black people want to rely on government instead of standing on their own two feet.

I understand. Since you haven't experienced it, it doesn't exist.

OK...
I wont argue with that, but do two wrongs make a right? That's often what affirmative action has done. To meet a quota system, higher qualified candidates would be bumped out of a slot to make racial quotas. I think that's been done away with, but it used to be the commonplace.
Well, in my experience, far more blacks speak poorly than white. Being in the Army for 11 years, I saw a good mix of people from all over. I say there's a significant difference.

How can you say someone should get preferred treatment based on race? Would it be right just to higher a black woman to fill a slot just to make a quota? If she's the best applicant, then yes. If she's not the best, it's a disservice to the person who is the best for the slot.

Here's something you can have fun with.

I don't like most black people. There are very few who I have met that grew up in a cultural setting I have any respect for. Most I have met are out right thugs, and lack integrity. I could say I don't like black people, but there are some exceptions. If I based all my decisions on statistics, I would stay clear of blacks.

Now if we go farther...

I don't like most police, lawyers, and liberals I meet. Several other classes of people I can add if I take a few moments to think about it.

Why is it I am called a racist when it deals with color, but normal dislikes when with other classifications of people?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You were saying WC?

[Wild Cobra]

You were saying WC?

Wow...

You could keep things in better context you know. It still does not support the accusation made against me.

I am amazed of your near stalking ability, to have saved on hand and for use at later dates, quotes you think you can incriminate me with.

Doesn't surprise me since you lack ethics.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Wow...

You could keep things in better context you know. It still does not support the accusation made against me.

I am amazed of your near stalking ability, to have saved on hand and for use at later dates, quotes you think you can incriminate me with.

Doesn't surprise me since you lack ethics.

Does anyone disagree that WC was saying that most black people are lazy and lack integrity?

Anyone?

[Wild Cobra]

Does anyone disagree that WC was saying that most black people are lazy and lack integrity?

Anyone?

Do others besides you assume my direct observation means that I think it's a picture of all blacks?

Remember, I am one who continually reminds people that facts make statistics, but statistics don't make facts.

Keep thinking my mind is as simple as yours, and you will always be wrong.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Do others besides you assume my direct observation means that I think it's a picture of all blacks?

Remember, I am one who continually reminds people that facts make statistics, but statistics don't make facts.

Keep thinking my mind is as simple as yours, and you will always be wrong.

Coward

[Creepn]

Um... no it does sound like WC is making a blanket statement that blacks are lazy and lack integrity without the need of context.

[Creepn]

WC I really wish you would come out the racism closet. You are worse than Clay Aiken.

[Wild Cobra]

Um... no it does sound like WC is making a blanket statement that blacks are lazy and lack integrity without the need of context.

Most I have met in bars, clubs, and on the street, stores, etc. are appalling people to me. Most I have met in may career field are great people. I have seen so few in my type of job field though. I don't know what the actual balance is, and I think you will find it hard to find any statement directly leading to what you wish to imply of my thoughts. You can take statements used during debates here and incorrectly apply them all you want. It is your error. Not mine.

[Wild Cobra]

WC I really wish you would come out the racism closet. You are worse than Clay Aiken.

It is your prejudice that makes you believe I am racist.

[Wild Cobra]

LOL...

Again, you internet losers are making this thread about me.

Have anything of value to offer on the topic at hand?

[Trill Clinton]

Do you really believe that's what I believe?

You are a piss poor judge of people. You are really wrong.

How does anyone with your assumptions make a living? maybe i should ask how many times have you been fired for wrong assumptions of what your employer said he wanted done.

Yes I believe that's what you believe. After seeing the quotes BY YOU that Fuzzy posted just reinforces that belief.

You shouldn't even be posting in this thread as racist as you are. Contrary to your belief, I'm a recent college grad with a well paying job. I have NEVER been fired from a job in my life and I started working at a young age.

And to that dumb ass quote about not seeing white people do things some impoverished black people do, when white people are being oppressed and profiled at the levels of blacks and hispanics, then you have an argument. until then shut up and thank your God that you where born white.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I thought it was ballsy to say that even if it is an anonymous poster on a message board but this pretending like you did not generalize black people in general as well as those you have met has to be one of the most cowardly displays that I have ever read.

As much as you post in this thread and as much bull as you lay out the context of the racist you have said is very much so germane. I just cannot believe how much of a pussy you are in owning up to it.

[Wild Cobra]

LOL...

Still making this thread about me.

You two are just internet bullies.

have anything to say about the thread itself?

[Wild Cobra]

Yes I believe that's what you believe. After seeing the quotes BY YOU that Fuzzy posted just reinforces that belief.

Too bad. It shows you either have poor deductive or poor reasoning skills. Did it ever occur to you that maybe I say things, certain ways, to see who it inflames? At the same time, I didn't actually say I believed what your perception of my belief is. It's so fun to see prejudiced asses like yourself make worse asses of yourselves showing you are so sensitive over the truth.

You shouldn't even be posting in this thread as racist as you are. Contrary to your belief, I'm a recent college grad with a well paying job. I have NEVER been fired from a job in my life and I started working at a young age.

As a college grajuate, you should be able to parse out the actual meaning of my words correctly. What are you? A "C" average? "D" average? Or is is a substandard college?

And to that dumb ass quote about not seeing white people do things some impoverished black people do, when white people are being oppressed and profiled at the levels of blacks and hispanics, then you have an argument. until then shut up and thank your God that you where born white.

I see...

Impoverished is an excuse to commit criminal activities?

I dislike white trash as much as I dislike black trash. It has nothing to do with skin color, but the content of people's character.

[Wild Cobra]

But there is something that I must say to my people who stand on the warm threshold which leads into the palace of justice. In the process of gaining our rightful place we must not be guilty of wrongful deeds. Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for freedom by drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred. We must forever conduct our struggle on the high plane of dignity and discipline. We must not allow our creative protest to degenerate into physical violence. Again and again we must rise to the majestic heights of meeting physical force with soul force.

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I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

I judge people by the content of their character.

[Creepn]

I really don't see how "context" that you keep talking about exempts your offensive and racist statements. With or without context, it's still ignorant and racist.

[Wild Cobra]

I really don't see how "context" that you keep talking about exempts your offensive and racist statements. With or without context, it's still ignorant and racist.

Offensive, sure, they can be seen that as legitimately perceived. Racist... No.

Do you know the definition of racism?

As for my statements...

I do not support White Trash activities. Am I to understand you support Black Trash activities? Do you also support White trash activities? Seems to me that you may be the racist.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

What about the riots after the Rodney King incident? Do whites ever do such things?

Are you saying a large population of blacks don't get scare when someone talks about reducing social benefits?

Talking about more taxes on the productive is scary. Why should those who are productive subsidize those who aren't?

For me, it's not a black vs. white issue. It's a culture issue for me. The hard facts are simply that more black people fall into that social class that wants the government handouts.

Hispanics tend to accel rather well in this nation after a generation or two. They have work ethics. Blacks tend not to. Hatred of what happened in times of slavery seems to be the key reason they don't accel.

Problem is, there are very good black men. Too many are petty and full of hatred, without having the capacity to strive past their own racial bias.

It's sad that so many black people want to rely on government instead of standing on their own two feet.

Well, in my experience, far more blacks speak poorly than white. Being in the Army for 11 years, I saw a good mix of people from all over. I say there's a significant difference.

I don't like most black people. There are very few who I have met that grew up in a cultural setting I have any respect for. Most I have met are out right thugs, and lack integrity. I could say I don't like black people, but there are some exceptions. If I based all my decisions on statistics, I would stay clear of blacks.

You know if I saw a group of black guys beating the out of you I might just join in. Quoting King. Seriously, that is just ed up.

[Creepn]

Most I have met in bars, clubs, and on the street, stores, etc. are appalling people to me. Most I have met in may career field are great people. I have seen so few in my type of job field though. I don't know what the actual balance is, and I think you will find it hard to find any statement directly leading to what you wish to imply of my thoughts. You can take statements used during debates here and incorrectly apply them all you want. It is your error. Not mine.

I don't think you meet black people in bars and clubs. You see them from afar acting rowdy and drunk then come to the conclusion that all of them are like that. Except from the ones you worked with. Why? Because you ACTUALLY met them. You just need to meet more black people and stop watching tv.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I don't think you meet black people in bars and clubs. You see them from afar acting rowdy and drunk then come to the conclusion that all of them are like that. Except from the ones you worked with. Why? Because you ACTUALLY met them. You just need to meet more black people and stop watching tv.

He is just pissing on your leg and telling you it's raining.

[Wild Cobra]

I don't think you meet black people in bars and clubs. You see them from afar acting rowdy and drunk then come to the conclusion that all of them are like that. Except from the ones you worked with. Why? Because you ACTUALLY met them. You just need to meet more black people and stop watching tv.

There you go assuming again. You don't have a clue about who I associate with, where, and why. you will assume anything to keep your racist views of me intact.

I pity you. how will you get very far in life at all if all you see if people out to get the black guy?

[Creepn]

I'm going to bed. This is ridiculous.

[Wild Cobra]

I'm going to bed. This is ridiculous.

Yes, you are. Good-Night.