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    this move is actually good for the people though, if you know anything about economics. in socialist canada, you have to wait 18 months to get a test for carpel tunnel. Obamacare isn't going to do anything except hurt the economy and raise healthcare costs.
    This is so ing old. In America waiting for people without insurance for a test for carpal tunnel never ends. You don't get one.

    We aren't even going to the Canadian system anyway.

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    If I recall correctly, this has already been put to vote with virtually the same result 2 or 3 times over the past year or so.

    Empty posturing.

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    If I recall correctly, this has already been put to vote with virtually the same result 2 or 3 times over the past year or so.

    Empty posturing.

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    If I recall correctly, this has already been put to vote with virtually the same result 2 or 3 times over the past year or so.

    Empty posturing.
    No.

    Election cycle posturing.

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    If I recall correctly, this has already been put to vote with virtually the same result 2 or 3 times over the past year or so.

    Empty posturing.
    Hasn't it been more like 30 times?

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    Hasn't it been more like 30 times?
    Yeah this time makes it 31 since the ACA was passed.

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    There is plenty of political posturing going on on both sides. As I previously pointed out, Obama saying he wants to repeal the Bush tax cuts for those making over $250,000, and trying to spin it as "The Republicans don't want to extend the tax cuts for the middle class" is total bull . Republicans put it up for a vote today to extend them for everyone and Reid wouldn't let them vote. Harry Reid won't put Obama's plan up in the Senate because he knows that enough Democrats will bail to keep it from passing. Pure posturing.

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    If I recall correctly, this has already been put to vote with virtually the same result 2 or 3 times over the past year or so.

    Empty posturing.
    todays's silliness was the

    31st vote to repeal ACA

    ... just more unending evidence, going back to 2001 Jan that Repugs don't have the slightest interest in actually governing.

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    ... just more unending evidence, going back to 2001 Jan that Repugs don't have the slightest interest in actually governing.
    And apparently neither does Obama.

    Sad, really.

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    This vote was just Republicans trying to prove their mantra that government is bad via self fulfilling prophecy. Such a ridiculous waste of time. At this point, anybody that is paying attention knows that the Republicans don't like Obamacare and want to repeal it. They don't have to keep bringing up these votes they know aren't going anywhere. To repeat the same action and expect different results is madness.

    What's really funny is that Republicans refuse to offer a serious replacement for Obamacare. They clearly don't have one, because Obama stole their's. I love how everyone seems to forget that Obamacare is the conservative, personal responsibility alternative to the true liberal solution, which is single payer.

    And lol at the comment about waiting for a doctor in Canada. That argument comes up every time single payer is mentioned. I wonder how many Canadians or Western Europeans would give up their single payer system for what we have? I'm not a pollster, but I'm guessing not many...

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    This vote was just Republicans trying to prove their mantra that government is bad via self fulfilling prophecy. Such a ridiculous waste of time. At this point, anybody that is paying attention knows that the Republicans don't like Obamacare and want to repeal it. They don't have to keep bringing up these votes they know aren't going anywhere. To repeat the same action and expect different results is madness.

    What's really funny is that Republicans refuse to offer a serious replacement for Obamacare. They clearly don't have one, because Obama stole their's. I love how everyone seems to forget that Obamacare is the conservative, personal responsibility alternative to the true liberal solution, which is single payer.

    And lol at the comment about waiting for a doctor in Canada. That argument comes up every time single payer is mentioned. I wonder how many Canadians or Western Europeans would give up their single payer system for what we have? I'm not a pollster, but I'm guessing not many...
    We have the lowest public opinion of our health care system in the western world.

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    They clearly don't have one, because Obama stole their's.
    Um you do realize that Romney wrote the model for Obamacare right? We live in a democratic tyranny, both sides play us off against one another for the opportunity to rape.

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    This is it. Unless ww3 comes into play, the president seats comes down to healthcare. Sad but true. God bless

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    Um you do realize that Romney wrote the model for Obamacare right? We live in a democratic tyranny, both sides play us off against one another for the opportunity to rape.
    I didn't know that signing it into law meant he wrote it.

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    There is plenty of political posturing going on on both sides. As I previously pointed out, Obama saying he wants to repeal the Bush tax cuts for those making over $250,000, and trying to spin it as "The Republicans don't want to extend the tax cuts for the middle class" is total bull . Republicans put it up for a vote today to extend them for everyone and Reid wouldn't let them vote. Harry Reid won't put Obama's plan up in the Senate because he knows that enough Democrats will bail to keep it from passing. Pure posturing.
    That's a pretty good compromise rather than giving them what they deserve. The Market is in a hole worldwide thanks to the greed of financial types. The worldwide debt is way over that of worldwide GDP. It's simply imaginary money bankers are playing with.

    Not many of them are worth that much to society.

    This is coming from someone who makes over 250k a year.

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    Um you do realize that Romney wrote the model for Obamacare right? We live in a democratic tyranny, both sides play us off against one another for the opportunity to rape.
    I didn't know that signing it into law meant he wrote it.
    The ACA is based off Romney's plan and GOP suggestions from Hillary care debates. They key item is leaving private insurance companies in the game, in this case..giving them guaranteed money.

    Corruption to benefit insurance s bags who provide no service and only take money.

    It's nothing more than mandating a middleman comparable to a car dealership. In some cases, a car dealership is more enjoyable.

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    I didn't know that signing it into law meant he wrote it.
    don't know why the link was being gay but here's the cached version

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=us

    that'll tell you what you need to know.

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    If I recall correctly, this has already been put to vote with virtually the same result 2 or 3 times over the past year or so.

    Empty posturing.
    Hasn't it been more like 30 times?
    Yeah this time makes it 31 since the ACA was passed.
    OP was surprised

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    don't know why the link was being gay but here's the cached version

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=us

    that'll tell you what you need to know.
    Yes it does.

    In his words, he authored it. I also noted some very striking differences between his version and Obamacare. I like that he removed the authoritarian requirement of insured services, and allows for tailor made plans. If I were to be required by law to provide my own insurance, I would opt for something that only covers catastrophic events, or has like a $10k annual deductible before insurance pays. That way, i can pay as little as possible for a product I don't feel I need.

    Obamacare absolutely stinks.

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    More dog and pony show... Things like this is why Congress rates even lower than the President, and historically amongst the lowest ever... In the meantime, almost 2 in 10 Americans either don't have a job or are underemployed...

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    More dog and pony show... Things like this is why Congress rates even lower than the President, and historically amongst the lowest ever... In the meantime, almost 2 in 10 Americans either don't have a job or are underemployed...
    If you are going to include underemployed, your number is low.

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    If you are going to include underemployed, your number is low.
    I checked... Last I found was for Jun 2012 at 17.8%...

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    Um you do realize that Romney wrote the model for Obamacare right? We live in a democratic tyranny, both sides play us off against one another for the opportunity to rape.
    Of course I realize Romney wrote the model. That is why I said Obama stole their plan. That is also why I said this vote, and Republican outrage in general against Obamacare, is ludicrous. Obamacare is a conservative, Republican plan.

    Call me naive, but I don't think Democrats would go this bat crazy if Republicans had tried to pass a single payer system during the Bush years. Democrats are far from perfect, but trying to say they are as bad as Republicans are right now is a joke. Between using the filibuster on almost every piece of legislation that comes to the table, and Mitch McConnell outright saying that his top priority was defeating the president, the Republican party has been acting borderline treasonous.

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    I checked... Last I found was for Jun 2012 at 17.8%...
    I thought you didn't believe these official numbers?

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    I thought you didn't believe these official numbers?
    They were from Gallup...

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