even if he never improves even a hair he's still better than anything else that was available and he's only making 2.3 mil and 3.3 mil next year. you can't beat that.
Thunder/Spurs/Lakers are locks for the top 3. After that i'd say Clippers/Grizzles/Nuggets/Mavs are in a dogfight for the next few spots. Utah, Phoenix (pending FA signings) and Minnesota might be a dark horse for a bottom seed.
Mavs are absolutely a playoff team at the moment.
If the Magic don't trade Howard before the season starts, these moves actually give the Mavs somewhat of a shot to land Dwight as they now have legit talent to offer, as well as quite a few expiring contracts.
Still a long shot, but a little less of one now.
Reports have it that the Mavs are pretty set on claiming Elton Brand after Philly amnestied him.
PG - Collison, Beaubois
SG - Jones, West
SF - Marion, Jones
PF - Dirk, Brand
C - Kaman, Brand
Not a bad team at all.
why go after dwight instead of bynum? dwight will be 27 shortly after the season starts, and barring a major injury to bynum has much less of a shelf life. there has never been a superstar possibly in league history who was more dependent on freakish athleticism than howard. i could see him falling off the face of the earth at age 30-32ish. meanwhile bynum has the size and traditional skills necessary to succeed without athleticism and he's younger.
we're trying to get young and rebuild, right?
IMO, they had a better chance with no one. Their best bet was to offer to take on Dwight + their two worst contracts and maybe get a third team involved to send a younger talented player.
They don't really have legit talent (Collison, while cheap, has been bouncing around and been pretty mediocre) that would interest ORL since they just re-upped Jameer as well.
Unless LA is simply trying to unload Bynum, I don't see how the Mavs could get him from them.
Seems only like they would trade Bynum if they could get Howard out of it.
bynum will be an unrestricted FA next summer LA won't have much say in where he chooses to go.
honestly, if theyd extend him and do a sign and trade for dirk straight up, it would be a dream scenario for me. i'm sure this opinion will be unpopular amongst mav homers but it's time to face it, we ain't winning another championship in the dirk era.
by the time we're able to maybe make a big signing next offseason for the 13/14 season, dirks performance in the 10-11 championship season will already be 3 seasons back. he's getting old. even a bynum or howard plus 35 year old defensive liability dirk plus scrubs won't get it done. it's in our best long term interest to rebuild and do it now. wright, collison, plus bynum in next years free agency would be a nice start.
Kaman won't make the Mavs any better. That dude blows. One of my least favorite Hornets of all time. Mavs need a center who will defend, rebound, and stay out of the away offensively. Kaman does anything but stay out of the way offensively. Demands the ball too much in the post, can't pass, turns the ball over, and forces bad shots. This dude is a black hole offensively. Plus he's getting 8 million when he's a flat out garbage player.
I like Collison since his Hornets days, but he needs the ball to be effective. He doesn't plaly off the ball that well. That's why Hill beat him out since he was much better than Collison last season. But Collison is young and cheap and can improve. He won't be that great of a player but should be a solid starter. Isn't that good defensively, but is really quick and can penetrate well. Needs to make his open jumpers consistently playing with Dirk.
Glad to see you are on board now after melting down. Even though the Mavs wasted a year of Dirk and whiffed on their master plan, I told you they are still in good shape.
Bynum was the one I told you about being a FA and you might be able to get Dwight too (if he makes it to FA). Mavs can't get two max guys, but if Collison works out, you might have a shot a Bynum (I think he doesn't make it to FA either though, he needs guaranteed money with his health) and another very solid player.
Also M>S, Mavs kind of did what we spoke about. I had mentioned KG on a short-term deal to keep cap space, but now they will have Kaman instead (definitely a downgrade, but a stop gap). They missed on Deron, but they got a cheap PG who can possibly grow into a decent starter and if not, his cheap contract is easily tradeable.
They key was not to panic when they whiffed on the master plan and try to stay compe ive while maintaining the cap space for what could be a much better FA class next year. The real issue is the ticking clock on Dirk possibly.
that's why i'm completely willing to trade dirk/marion for him. the lakers do it because they're in win now mode and get a couple of guys who can still play, and dirk/gasol are obviously a better fit at least offensively than bynum/gasol. the mavs do it to dump marions salary and get younger. this trade is a win/win for both teams and ensures us that we actually do get bynum instead of sitting there with our s in our hand while LA re-ups him.
but obviously it'll never happen because mark cuban is a dumb and he's in love with dirk.
you ain't rebuilding a team around dirk who's already 34yr old, so you're on win-now mode as long as dirk plays. just spend the $ wisely and get the biggest/best talents at present time, and you're still a compe or in the west. there ain't no team capable of threatening us heat in the foreseeable future so stop dreaming about championships tbh, you got yours in 11
you're re ed if you wouldn't pull the trigger on dirk for bynum. if you start rebuilding now, hopefully by the time wade falls off a cliff in 2-3 years you're in position to step in and contend for a championship again.
dirk/pau would be a horrible combo to begin with, both soft as and they lakers don't need another guy to demand the ball when they already have nash & kobe. dirk would have to adjust his game to fit in lakers system which means he's efficiency would be heavily reduced
and there's no of way the lakers traded their future for a 35yr old TOSB, if there was a bynum for dirk offer on the table i would take it too, but you know it ain't ever happening in real
Stupid ers........... IDIOTS, got raped.
I do think Hill is better but Collison was far more effective vs the Heat in the playoffs.
bynum has been the subject of trade talks for a while now and there's that whole kobe thing back in 2006 or whenever it was wanting to have bynum traded. i'm willing to be there's some bad blood there. bynum can choose to walk this summer if he wishes, which is what might make LA bite at the offer.
I don't like Kaman but Haywood sucks and Collision is better than sessions
sons Dallas loves getting former Hornets. real talk they made two pretty good moves today. Kaman and Collison will help them.
as stupid as donnie & cuban have always been, they ain't trading dirk for bynum w/o the guarantee of him signing extension, and they know they'd have little chance to convince him to re-sign with the dirk-less mavs come 13' offseason
rumors said the lakers, magic and rockets
steal for the Mavs, tbh... Do the Pacers know what they're getting?
did you even hear what i said? i said sign him to an extension and do a sign and trade. i wouldn't do it for a 1 year rental of bynum either.as stupid as donnie & cuban have always been, they ain't trading dirk for bynum w/o the guarantee of him signing extension, and they know they'd have little chance to convince him to re-sign with the dirk-less mavs come 13' offseason
rumors said the lakers, magic and rockets
when i first heard the news that dallas & pacers got done a S&T deal i thought they were about to get hibert
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