True dat ...
prime jordan vs kobe now rotflmao
They need to stop calling them the "dream team" now. There are too many players who simply aren't on the team that are better than some of those who are.
Take D-Rob out of the discussion he was a bona-fide piece of
Kobe's response:
via Twitter @Blazersedge (Interview is from after tonights Olympic exhibition)
Here's Kobe Bryant's full, must-read response to Michael Jordan's Dream Team trash talk. Jordan said he laughed when he heard Bryant said the 2012 USA Basketball team could beat the 1992 Dream Team. Bryant's post-game response after USA defeated Dominican Republic in Las Vegas on Thursday night: "So what, he knows I'm a bad mother[expletive]. I'm not really tripping. The fact is, they have Ewing and Robinson and those big guys, it's tough. If you're asking me, 'Can you beat them one game?' yeah, we can beat them in one game. You didn't ask me if we could beat them in a 7-game series. In one game, we can beat them. No question about it."
imagine if MJ played in today's league which favors offense... How many more points do you think he'd average?
Damn,some of you younger clowns need to go dig up your dads old VHS tapes of the 92 team. Talkin' out your asses with talk of "it would be close."
Kobe/LeBron/Durant and a bunch of good players
vs
MJ/Barkley/Malone/Pippen/Ewing/Robinson/Stockton/Drexler....with older guys like Magic,Mullin and Bird?
Kobe is a funny guy.
You must be above the age of 30. A poster like you would overwhelmingly choose the 92 team over this year's team without even considering the specifics and makeup of the team.
Damn,some of you younger clowns need to go dig up your dads old VHS tapes of the 92 team. Talkin' out your asses with talk of "it would be close."
Kobe/LeBron/Durant and a bunch of good players
vs
MJ/Barkley/Malone/Pippen/Ewing/Robinson/Stockton/Drexler....with older guys like Magic,Mullin and Bird?
Kobe is a funny guy.
Just because some team has star power doesn't mean they win.
Think about the versatility of this year's team and compare it to that old team you saw as a 16 year old. With the exception of bigs, this year's team collectively dominates the original dream team. No questions asked.
Star power? HOF power tbh. I fully consider that LeBron would be a tough cover...thats it.
Go watch some tapes of the 92 teams worldwide demolition derby and describe to us how the 2012 team would keep them down for more than maybe 3 qtrs.
HOF power means absolutely nothing when no other list of players playing in that same era are worth being considered.
This year's version of the dream team has at least three hall of famers with other players yet to be discussed that highly of.
Add the fact that the core of that 92 team was past it's prime.. yeah, this year's team defeats it by at least 5 points.
Past their prime? Who?
Jordan? > no.
Barkley? > no.
Malone? > no.
Pippen? > no.
Ewing? > no.
Robinson? > no.
Stockton? > no.
Mullin? > eh...debatable.
Magic and Bird yes.
We can debate over which team would win, but get the outta here with that past their prime nonsense.
Lol, kobe basically saying no way in a 7 game series, but possible in one game due to some fluke cir stances.
Then these Lebron/Durant/Kobe fanbois still claiming otherwise.
At least u can argue kobe said what he said due to pride, and that I can respect coming from an athelete. But some dudes here are just purely delusional.
That 92 squad had 9 HOF players in their prime and two has been HOFs.
well if the game is played under NBA rules then it's hard to say who wins tbh, monkey ball would cause the 92' team a ton of matchup troubles. however if they play the game in olympics where there's no defensive 3-sec rule and the bigs can stand right under the rim all time, monkey ball would rush into the wall
92's front court was simply badass.
The Dream Team would win in convincing fashion. You have to add the international rules, too. There is no defensive 3 seconds rule. You could camp Robinson and Ewing in the paint and have them waiting when Lebron/Kobe/Westbrook/Iggy or anyone else drives to the cup. It would make them jumpshooters. In international compe ion you don't have those "bull into the lane, flail your arms and cry until you get a foul" superstar calls. The 3 point line is different, too. Makes it easier for the 92 team as well.
And prime Jordan would destroy 2012 Kobe. With a prime Kobe it would be closer, but now? No way. It would be embarrassing. LeBron would give Pippen a hard time, but Pippen was maybe the best perimeter defender in the league (alongside MJ; even Barkley could help, if he looked to post) and would not let Lebron get by easy. On the flip side, it would be much harder for Chandler/Davis to stop Robinson/Ewing/Barkley/Malone in the post. They would get murdered.
Then you have HoF defenders at every position. Is there a better defensive 2 guard all time then MJ? A better 3 then Pippen? You can add the all time steals leader in Stockton and a ton of shotblockers at C.
Basically, I just dont see how the 2012 would score enough. There will be too much iso-ball and they wouldnt score that much in transition the way the 92 team protected the ball. IMO lack of size kills the 12' team, too.
And even if you have LeBron playing PF (and Durant at SF), him going against Barkley or Malone, he would have problems, especially against Malone who has a few inches on him and was strong as an ox as a player. Bron wouldn't even get half the calls he gets now. Bron would score, sure, but it won't be that easy as some might think.
I am just laughing at this whole thing. Who was the worst player for team USA (No one mention laettner, we aren't talking about him). Mullin? Bird? The 2012 team would have to keep their starting 5 on the floor the whole time.
I see people start talking about "its not about start power, its about make-up". Well everyone fell in line behind MJ and MJ. They took on their roles and played them well.
Wow, I have to imagine that Kobe was just trolling, because he is old enough to have watched that team and to have watched those individual players playing for their individual teams (though he was in Italy so maybe he didn't watch them as much).
This whole thing is laughable.
It works both ways spurfan, remember the time when a young ocho dropped 55 points on MJ's old ass?
Buckets:
LOL, Laker fans having to pull Jordan's Washington's day as some time of redemption.
Surprised I haven't seen that video of Jordan getting whipped by that four eyed geek in his camp yet.
Jordan was quoted saying: "I wouldn't have allowed Kobe's 81 points without fouling out" but he did allow 55
The spurfan i quoted on my previous post mentioned "Prime Jordan vs todays Kobe", so i reversed the roles and presented video proof... simple as that.
Spurfan doesn't need to get butthurt about it... those are facts.
These are the results from some robot calculations:
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/pos...han-dream-team
It is no secret that the current ESPN has all kinds of agenda to push the current NBA and such that they can get better ratings, but the results still have the Dream Team coming out on top, though slightly.
Not to mention that the methods they used are HIGHLY flawed. Using rebounding pct across two different eras against different opponents is just royally stupid. Guess why Love and Griffen has such high rebounding pct? They are playing on teams with only one rebounder and against 6'10" centers and PF who play the perimeter.
True shooting percentages are also flawed, because the league changed the rules over the years, non so obvious and has as much an impact than in 2002 (or was that 2001?) when there were a huge jump in shooting percentages and scoring around the perimeter.
Even with all these things going for the creamed team, the will still end up on the losing side.
Just look at individual matchups, the only player the Dream Team will have trouble guarding would be James. Robinson is the only one who has the strength and speed to guard James, and Pippen has the speed and skill, but this matchup will cause the Dream Team some trouble.
Durant would be a tough cover, and the quick point guards could pose some problems, but Pippen, and Stockton would present a tough match up for them. Jordan will also be thrown in to guard Westbrook and CP3.
The other players could be relatively easily covered by the original dream team.
Now on the other end. Who will guard Robinson/Ewing and Malone/Barkley? Anthony Davis and Chandler could do some of that, but they will be eventually overwhelmed by the strength and speed. James could guard one of the PF, but does not have the strength to guard the center position all game long.
Magic will be too big of a PG for creamed team to cover. I can see Deron Williams trying, and perhaps have James/Durant/Kobe seeing some time there, but if Magic is too big even for Jordan to guard, what chance does Deron and Kobe have? James could guard Magic, but then he is already guarding the PF spot. Perhaps AI?
Mullins, Bird, Stockton will be shooting lights out, and the creamed team doesn't have anyone with enough IQ and defensive discipline to guard the Stockton to Malone pick and roll.
The passing on the original dream team is going to shred the creamed team to pieces, and Barkley and Robinson/Ewing will be feasting on the inside. Malone and Stockton will run the pick and roll all day, Mullin, Bird and Stockton will be draining three pointers, and if they need a bail out, Jordan, Drexler, Barkley, or even Bird and Magic can always come to the rescue.
Reversed the roles? Didn't know you are that dumb. Olympia 1992 vs. Olympia 2012 means 29y Jordan vs. 33y Kobe (almost 34y as Kobe has birthday in August). The game you took was back on 28th March 2003 and thus, 40y Jordan vs. 24y Kobe. If you think that's equal in terms of age difference you have officially surpassed Kool as the dumbest poster ever on ST.Jordan was quoted saying: "I wouldn't have allowed Kobe's 81 points without fouling out" but he did allow 55
The spurfan i quoted on my previous post mentioned "Prime Jordan vs todays Kobe", so i reversed the roles and presented video proof... simple as that.
Spurfan doesn't need to get butthurt about it... those are facts.
Last edited by Sportstudi; 07-13-2012 at 10:32 AM.
Kevin Durant would be the difference maker though. Even the original dream team had no one to stop him outside the arc.
I know one thing, I would pay a hefty fee to watch that game.
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