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  1. #101
    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    Jordan was quoted saying: "I wouldn't have allowed Kobe's 81 points without fouling out" but he did allow 55

    The spurfan i quoted on my previous post mentioned "Prime Jordan vs todays Kobe", so i reversed the roles and presented video proof... simple as that.

    Spurfan doesn't need to get butthurt about it... those are facts.
    LOL, Lakerfans are defining what butthurt means in this very thread.

    In that 55 point game, Kobe was on fire, going 9-13 on 3pters, but guess why he was so opened on 3s? Oh, right, Shaq. The Lakers, no counting Kobe, shot 3-6 from 3s with scrubs like Fox and George.

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    damn fool is off his rocker

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    Reversed the roles? Didn't know you are that dumb. Olympia 1992 vs. Olympia 2012 means 29y Jordan vs. 33y Kobe (almost 34y as Kobe has birthday in August). The game you took was back on 28th March 2003 and thus, 40y Jordan vs. 24y Kobe. If you think that's equal in terms of age difference you have officially surpassed Kool as the dumbest poster ever on ST.
    You're oversimplifying things. There's no magic formula to explain a player's prime, different players have primes at different ages.

    Jordan was in his prime at 29 and at Kobe's current age (33), MJ was still leading the league in scoring, was named MVP and won his 4th ring.

    On the other hand, Kobe's best days are clearly behind him at the age of 33 and you can't ignore Kobe's mileage, yes, he is 33 but also a 16th year nba veteran with 40k+ minutes played at a high level. That's why some people compare 2012 33 year old Kobe to MJ in the later years of his career.

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    Kobe can't even get out of the second round and he's calling out the greatest team of all time? LOLOLOLOL

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    It works both ways spurfan, remember the time when a young ocho dropped 55 points on Stackhouse's old ass?

    Buckets:


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    imagine if MJ played in today's league which favors offense... How many more points do you think he'd average?
    How does today's league exactly favor offense? Rule changes? Right, okay. Is that why scoring in general is lower than it used to be, back when Jordan was playing and scoring 30+ a night?

    Pace is SIGNIFICANTLY slower than it used to be, as well as defensive strategy being much more advanced than it was in the 80s and early 90s. The quality of defensive players and athletes in general is much higher too. Back when MJ played, he was nearly in a league of his own in terms of athletic ability. Now? There are constantly people with comparable (and sometimes even superior) athletic ability who would actually have the speed and quickness to somewhat stick with him.

    I believe that MJ would still be the best player in today's league. But he wouldn't be worlds ahead of everyone else like he was when he played. I think a lot of people would say Lebron is nipping right at his heels, and could have a great argument that he is actually superior at creating for teammates, superior in transition, and a superior overall defensive player.

    I strongly believe Jordan would not be consistently averaging 30+ ppg annually in today's league, like he did in the 80s and 90s.

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    The video, nearly 20 years old, shows the Dream Team doing something they never did at the 1992 Summer Games in Barcelona: losing. They faced a group of top college players that included Grant Hill, Bobby Hurley, Penny Hardaway and Chris Webber, who vowed: “I’m not going to be intimidated.”

    The never-before-seen coaches’ tape is part of a do entary, “NBA TV’s The Dream Team, presented by Right Guard,” that will be shown on the league’s network on June 13. In part, the video shows Webber gleefully jamming and Hurley easily slicing through the Dream Team defense.

    “These young kids were killing us,” Scottie Pippen said in the do entary; he and the assistant coach Lenny Wilkens said the team played tentatively.

    “We didn’t know how to play with each other,” Pippen said.

    The final score of the scrimmage in La Jolla, Calif. — Collegians 62, Dream Team 54 — looked nothing like the results of the Olympic games that the Dream Team won by an average of 43.8 points.

    “Some of these college players should be probably be playing on this team,” Larry Bird said afterward.

    Although NBA Entertainment covered the Dream Team with its own cameras, the scrimmage tape was made by USA Basketball. “A couple of years ago, when we were starting this project, we asked them, ‘What do you have?’ ” said Dion Cocoros, vice president for original production at NBA Entertainment.

    Told that the USA Basketball had the scrimmage at its archive in Colorado Springs, Cocoros said, “Give me what you’ve got.”

    The do entary also has tape — from USA Basketball and NBA Entertainment cameras — of a far more famous pre-Olympic scrimmage: Michael Jordan’s team against Magic Johnson’s in Monte Carlo.

    Twenty years is a long time to wait to make a do entary about a major sports event like the Dream Team’s easy ride to a gold medal, especially with so much video sitting in the league’s vault.

    “We never knew when it would air,” said Danny Meiseles, executive producer for production, programming and broadcasting at NBA Entertainment. “We just knew we had to do ent the history.”

    The scrimmage lost to the college players was a fix, part of Coach Chuck Daly’s plan to demonstrate to a team loaded with 11 future basketball Hall of Famers that they could lose in international compe ion.
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  8. #108
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    It helps to read the entire article:

    The scrimmage lost to the college players was a fix, part of Coach Chuck Daly’s plan to demonstrate to a team loaded with 11 future basketball Hall of Famers that they could lose in international compe ion.

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    It helps to read the entire article:
    I have that ^ quoted and I provided a link to the article.

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    Larry Bird on whether current Olympic team could beat Dream Team: "They probably could. I haven't played in 20 years and we're all old now." Twitter

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    Larry Bird on whether current Olympic team could beat Dream Team: "They probably could. I haven't played in 20 years and we're all old now." Twitter

    Larry made a funny.

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    Kevin Durant would be the difference maker though. Even the original dream team had no one to stop him outside the arc.

    I know one thing, I would pay a hefty fee to watch that game.
    Both Drexxler and Pippen would each fare better than anyone in today's nba.

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    Kobe may have a point because of their athleticism (Minus Kobe of course), but i see the Dream team beating this one by 25-30 pts.

    Simply put the 1992 team had a large margin of victory but fact is they didn't didn't play anybody. They played slow and weak international teams that are not as advanced as they are today...The quick guards on Kobe's teams would have fouled Pippen and Magic out....now Malone would have beasted..MJ and Kobe a tie...

    Kobe is right as usual

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    Simply put the 1992 team had a large margin of victory but fact is they didn't didn't play anybody. They played slow and weak international teams that are not as advanced as they are today...The quick guards on Kobe's teams would have fouled Pippen and Magic out....now Malone would have beasted..MJ and Kobe a tie...

    Kobe is right as usual

    ur a fckn idiot

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    ok..but I'm right...

    Let’s look at the positions player by player... there’s no doubt Kobe’s team would have won:

    PG- 2012 wins... Chris Paul, WestBrook and Deron >>John Stockton and Magic ; Magic and Stockton to ing slow for these guards…they would have fouled out early


    PF– Wash...Kevin Love and Lebron James ties Karl Malone and Barkley (Malone's dirty ass would have hacked the out of Kevin Love but he wins that match-up) and Lebron wins the Barkley match-up.



    SF – 2012 wins...Melo, Durant, Iggy, Lebron >> Larry Bird, Pippen and Mullin



    C – 1992 wins...D-Rob and Ewing >> Tyson Chandler and Kevin Love
    Rookies - 2012 wins à Anthony Davis >> Christian Leattner



    SG – 1992 barely wins... MJ and Drexler >> Kobe and Harden (this is almost a wash because Harden too quick for Drexler

    Keep in mind the 2012 team boasts skill, youth, and speed…Something that the 1992 team never faced…No way the 92 team can keep Harden, Westbrook, and Durant in front of them all 23 yrs old.



    You guys think Kobe was exaggerating but I see where he’s coming from…I’ve said it all along MJ won easy because he had it easy..Kobe out here competing with way more skilled , faster, and hungrier young talent…


    Note: The Spurs representing team using by having their Team Physician: Paul Saenz serve the players medical needs…I guess that’s the best they could do

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