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Man, I'm down with the vuvuzela . That was ing annoying.
Man, I'm down with the vuvuzela . That was ing annoying.
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Even better if they banned soccer to kill two birds with one stone.
ain't nobody gonna kill soccer. It's a business MUCH BIGGER than, eg, the NBA business.
They should kill the idea of NBA players going to the Olympics too.
I'm all for the Che banning. Why that monster is put on a pedestal in any way is disgusting.
I guess there's something romantic about being Castro's executioner.
and an exterminator of sexuals
Dude is dead... Its just a t-shirt, what's the big deal?
People complain about lack of freedom here. Few other nations enjoy the same level of freedom of speech as we do.Dude is dead... Its just a t-shirt, what's the big deal?
Great Britain sure doesn't.
do nba players get drug tested at the olympics?
I'm sure there are families of the hundreds executed by Guevara that may find is a big deal.Dude is dead... Its just a t-shirt, what's the big deal?
Have them sue the t-shirt makers and find out in court if their grievances are more important than freedom of speech... heck, I'm pretty sure they already know the answer.
I'm not disagreeing with you on it being a free speech issue and, I wouldn't propose any government intervention in the expression of ignorance by those who lionize Che Guevara.
Tell me, are you as cavalier about the sensitivities of African-Americans and the symbols and expressions of racism? Women and the chauvinism?
Or, are people only expected to ignore hateful speech when it comes from the corners of extreme left ideologies?
Just curious.
By the way, I'm completely in favor of idiots (of all stripes) self-identifying. At least I know who not to patronize with my money.
But I'm not 'sensitive' about it. I'm actually laughing at the whole thing.
I simply find amusing that a 1st world country like the UK thinks banning arbitrary images stamped on a t-shirt is an important issue.
Do you laugh when someone gets their hackles up over Confederate flag imagery, white robes, or slavery images?
Do you find it equally amusing when the United States (arguably, still a 1st world country) bans images of racism at government schools?
I guess I'm not following you here. Are you suggesting some peoples sensitivities are worthy of government protection while others are not?
People getting worked up over other clearly re ed/ignorant people? I do. I think it's hilarious.
You don't follow because you've set up your own strawmen.
Equality is certainly worthy of government protection. Or so says the US Cons ution. Images of dead people? Not so much.
Do you do that in front of the people getting worked up over other clearly re ed/ignorant people?
Do you bust out in laughter when a racist clearly offends an African-American, in your presence? How do you think that would be perceived by the offended person?
There's a difference between equality and being offended. All people have the right to be treated equally, under the law. No one has the right to not be offended.
I laugh at the re ed/ignorant people and the person who gets offended by them equally. Neither are really worth of my time.
I smile too when I see confederate flag bumper-stickers or "Secede!" bumper stickers (largely during my Texas visits).
Are you suggesting that my reaction to such encounters should be regulated somehow?
But they're two completely different issues. Racism falls squarely into the Equality clause, and thus is afforded cons utional protection.
Images of dead people stamped on a t-shirt do not fall into the protections afforded by the Equality clause. They actually fall squarely into the 1st amendment protections.
What an individual finds offensive is frankly irrelevant. Otherwise, things like porn would've been illegal for a while now.
Nope. Just wondering how an African-American might view your amusement.
Actually they're identical. I think you're conflating criminal actions resulting from racism with racism itself.
It's no more a crime to wear a t-shirt depicting a racist ideologue than it is to wear a t-shirt depicting a communist ideologue yet, only one is controlled at government schools or frowned on by most of U.S. Society; although I suspect a Che shirt in some parts of Miami would be about as welcome as a Kleagle Klan shirt in some parts of Atlanta...or, just about anywhere in America.
Who cares?
You said racism. I'm sticking to what you said.
They're not identical at all. I'm pretty sure the Equality clause doesn't protect dead people stamped on a t-shirt. If it does, please quote the relevant portion of the clause.
What t-shirt of a racist ideologue was banned? Oh, and BTW, it's been well established by the SCOTUS that schools have certain overriding powers over the 1st amendment. Again, apples and oranges.
Well, I think African-Americans care. Just as the families of the victims of Che Guevara might care.
That's kind of the point.
The Equality clause doesn't protect people from racist ideal either. I would hope the Equal protection clause would protect people from Che Guevara's actions -- if not his image.
Racism isn't illegal. If it were, there'd be a whole lot more people in jail.
Are you suggesting a person wearing a t-shirt depicting a Klansman, holding a noose, would not be banned from every public or government venue into which someone tried to wear it?
Apples and apples. Che and the Klan both devalued human life and did unspeakable things in the name of their twisted ideologies. I think those negatively affected by such men deserve sensitivity and I see the UK banning Che shirts as suitable expression of that sensitivity as much as I see similar attempts to squash racist expressions, here in the US, as proper expressions of that same sensitivity.
After all, you don't have the right to attend the Olympics; buying tickets into the venue cons utes a contract between you and the IOC; and, if the IOC is okay with the ban, you either show up without the shirt or break your contract.
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