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Because he is not top 3
Why do i see people not having him top 3 of all time? And i see alot of people doing this..
Is it because his name is Abdul-jabar?
Because he is not top 3
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wtf??
People usually interchange 3 with Kareem and Bird. Magic at #2 is set in stone ala game 6 1980 finals.
the guy who led the ty bucks to NBA championship was NOT named Jabbar imho, the jabbar we know was just the #2nd banana on magic's team
I agree Kareem is THAT . Also don't forget that he's the undisputed GOAT college player.
He's top 3. Six league MVPs and six championships and leading scorer in NBA history. 19x all star who made fifteen 1st or 2nd all-NBA teams and 11 all defensive teams. Add three NCAA championships and that he's the greatest college player of all time, and you have a college/pro resume that no one can touch.
Kareem's career vs Bird's career is not even close. Kareem won twice as many championships, has twice as many MVPs, was an all star 7 more seasons, scored a lot more points and was a much better defensive player.
Last edited by namlook; 07-16-2012 at 03:44 AM.
MJ is mos def top3...
...then you have the "championship guys" that put Russell top3 (count me to that group)
...you also have the "insane stat guys" that put Wilt there (don't count me to that group)
...there is also that "Magic and Bird saved basketball and belong there guys"
...there are the "I'm smarter than you guys" which tend to put Oscar or Hakeem there
...and the "I'm not old enough but todays players are more athletic anyway guys" that tend to go with the LeBrons, Kobes, Shaqs or Vince Carters (ok, not VC)
...leaving the "all time stats do matter most" for KAJ, as he was really good in maybe all of these groups...but only killed it in this category
For me personally it is MJ/Russel tied for 1st and KAJ 3rd.
Last edited by mudyez; 07-16-2012 at 03:50 AM.
glorified ben wallace as the 2nd best player of all time? lol ok
You've got to be kidding me. Kareem is more like a glorified Hakeem & Duncan put together.
The blind Laker homers may put Magic (lets not even bring Kobe in this) over KAJ, but IMO Jabbar is by far the greatest Laker of all time.
I'd argue that he is the true GOAT. Wanna compare his accolades (and when he achieved them) to MJ?
3rd best center all time maybe
Don't forget that Timmy is a PF...So you may put KAJ 2nd among C's.
I was talking about Russell
KAJ would have busted Russell's ass like he did Wilt if they played during the same era. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.
Kareem getting disrespected over here, tbh
He'd skyhook over Duncan all day
Only blind people are the ones who forget Magic single handidly on the 76ers in his rookie season in game 6 without Kareem. Let's not forget Kareem was 28 when he started with LA and didn't win until he was 32 - year Magic joined.
can we all agree on:
1. MJ
2-4. Bill+KAJ+Wilt in some order
5+6. Bird+Magic in some order
7-10. Hakeem+Kobe+Shaq+Timmy in some order
???
(at least for now)
I know I know: West/Oscar and so on can be in the conversation for 7-10 too, but I think its a pretty fair list, isn't it?
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