AP: Penn State To Renovate Showers Where Victims Abused
http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2012/0...ictims-abused/
Wonder if they will put up a historical marker to mark the spot.
I think that pretty much encapsulates how messed up all this is.“He won more football games than anyone in the world. That accomplishment stands. He helped build Penn State as it is today. He stood for integrity,” said Zujaowski, who attended Friday’s board of trustees meeting. “Statute or nor statue, that legacy remains, and I believe that the statue should stand in memory of that.”
And, Hitler made the trains run on time.
The point being, one up can ruin a legacy.
If Paterno knew Sandusky was a pedophile and let it go, he deserves to be erased from the record books, have his name stripped from all buildings, his statues pulled down, and the name "Nobody" put in its place.
Neither Hitler nor Paterno had just one up.
I live up here in Pa - the hero worship for this guy is obscene. The local press, however, is not sugar coating it. When it fully sinks in to the consciousness, I think the legacy, even among the Penn State people has to be, not just tarnished, but fully destroyed.
KIDS WERE RAPED!!
Needs to be repeated, loudly, every time someone wants to defend anything related to Penn State Football.
FWIW, the colloquialism is "Mussolini made the trains run on time," and it's a myth:
Snopes: Mussolini did not make the trains run on time
LOL! I love the fact that Snopes did a piece on if Mussolini made the trains run on time.
Also, people had been taking sandusky's image and name out of murals and memorials, etc. I have read that similarly, people are beginning to do this to paterno.
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I am sure that EVERYONE but me realized this before now, but does anyone else see the irony here when you take JoPa's last name into account?
It sounds pretty clear that high officials protected Sandusky and allowed the rape of little boys to continue for years. Guess Sandusky was a good coach. Anyone that was complicit in the cover up should be in the state pen instead of at penn state.
(Rimshot!)
I even got the dictator wrong.
Thanks for the correction but, I was just using a familiar cliche to demonstrate the point that even evil degenerates can do one thing right.
A few years ago Sandusky tried to worm his way into a consulting position for the (consistently awful) football program at a small PA college where I live. Fortunately, they knew enough about him to tell him to stay the away.
Cosmic comedian
After the report, there will be something seriously wrong if Penn State has a football season this year.
Probably too late to do anything about it for this coming season. My guess is the NCAA does its own official investigation now and imposes sanctions over the next season(s) with some lighter version of the death penalty.
Penn State doesn't have to wait for the NCAA; they can do the right thing and kill the season, today.
Even though there isn't a chance in this happens, I agree with Yoni. Killing the season and suspending the program indefinitely is what Penn State should do (Bob Costas talked about this on meet the press).
IMO, if Penn State imposes sanctions and self-imposes a season long program suspension then that's the proper punishment. If Penn State thinks they've washed their hands of this simply by firing some people and don't deserve sanctions themselves, then they should get a 2-3 year football ban.
As I said, probably too late. This isn't happening in a vacuum. I guess they could just forfeit all their games, but that seriously screws all the teams they are scheduled to play, especially Virginia and all the B1G teams State would play on the road. Maybe if there's some kind of insurance for it or Penn State covers at least a portion of the losses for those other programs, that could be OK.
Guess I'm still in a small minority that thinks the NCAA should do nothing.
Perhaps they are that stupid.
I saw the Costas interview, as well. I think he raises the most important point for Penn State to grasp. The more severe the self-flagellation is, the less severe will be the NCAA penalty and equates to getting back to football sooner, rather than later.
If Penn State were smart, they'd transfer scholarships, release players, and kill the program...today.
Penn State is like the Catholic Church, or any large organization.
Pope Paterno and his money making machine were/are much more important than any individual.
"Some (Corporate)Americans Are More Equal Than Other (Human)Americans" on the American Money Farm.
The current players and most of the current coaches and staff will end up paying for it even though they had zero to do with the abuse and cover-up. collateral damage so to speak.
It figures you'd bring your bot-speak this thread even. :facepalm
This has nothing to do with the Catholic Church, or Corporate America.
This has everything to do with Public Universities falling in love with revenue.
The SMU debacle kinda pales compared to the systemic enabling of a child rapist by a university, doesn't it? Yet, they got the death penalty. Anything less than that for Penn State is absurd.
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