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No, it was spin the bottle and take something off when it pointed at you. We all ended up naked multiple times but hugs and pecks on the cheek were as far as it went till we were older.
No, it was spin the bottle and take something off when it pointed at you. We all ended up naked multiple times but hugs and pecks on the cheek were as far as it went till we were older.
Of course you do. You have to defend Zimmerman at all costs.
When he was 8, and 16 when he was 18.
I wouldn't be too eager to make this into a crime until you have more facts. A lot of long-term consensual relationships turn into statutory rape when Dad finds out and daughter is afraid to tell the truth.
We don't have enough information to know what occurred. But, what I can say, is it's not germane to the murder trial and its disclosure could only serve to bias a jury pool against Zimmerman.
The girl was 6 and the boy was 8. Is it that different? , don't believe me...
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=playing+doctor+normal%3F
Understand, Zimmy was slightly older and going for stinkfinger was a little much and the alleged annual reunion under the blanket was a little disconcerting but rape it wasn't.
I'm not saying with 100% surety that it happened. My problem is with Cosmic sucker with his dubious past and one dollar psychology degree immediately blaming the girl for coming out with the story and being ignorant to the rights of sexual victims.
Here...this is from the Google search you gave me:
When sex play is not normal. How do you tell when the line has been crossed from innocent, childish curiosity that needs to be handled with understanding and explanations into abnormal behavior that needs serious attention? It's important for parents to know how to tell when one child is victimizing another. Here are su ious signs:
- One child entices or forces the other into sex play.
- There is an age difference of more than three years between children.
- The sex play is not appropriate: for example, oral-genital contact between a six-year-old and a three-year-old.
- The event occurs more than once despite your careful intervention and supervision. These are grounds to protect your child from another by terminating the friendship. If the sex play is between siblings, seek professional help.
I get that but, his antics aside, I'm not sure the woman's story deserved to be accepted uncritically given the timing of the disclosure and the absence of any prosecution of Zimmerman, over the allegation, prior to today.
I blame Angela Corey.
I think she knows her 2nd Degree Murder charge won't pass muster at trial and, so, she's working overtime make Zimmerman into a boogey man a typical juror wouldn't lose sleep over sending to jail, even if he didn't commit murder.
You're already convinced.
I didn't blame the girl. I said if she REALLY didn't like it she had MANY options to avoid or prevent it.
Like not getting under the blanket with George for starters.
Maybe not at 6, but 16?????? REALLY?
witness 9 made the outcry 2 months ago. the prosecution has been releasing bits of various witness statements and findings for about a month now. findings about zimmerman's past were released when the case first broke. no need in questioning corey when she's been releasing information. its not like this is the first time she's done this.
I know its a hard pill to swallow. the guy you've been defending is now a chester molester but it is what it is. if you're comfortable defending a man of zimmermans cloth then so be it. corey doesn't have to work overtime to make him look like a boogey man, he did this to hisself.
CC I bet you blame women who get raped because they should have done x,y, z to prevent it.
I'll bet you are really really wrong and really really stupid.
In fact I'm sure of it.
I think getting under the blanket with George time after time and expecting a different result is almost as stupid as you are.
Almost.
I've not been defending him; I've always allowed Zimmerman could be guilty of murdering Trayvon Martin. But, I just believe -- based on all the evidence available to the public -- what occurred that night closely aligns with Zimmerman's version of events. That's it. And, my opinion of that hasn't changed.
I love the use of the legalese "outcry." Seriously? Witness #9 hasn't had an opportunity before two weeks ago, before Angela Corey, before Trayvon Martin's shooting, to make her "outcry?"
Her allegations require a whole separate prosecution and I would suggest she file a criminal complaint with the District Attorney having jurisdiction over the alleged crime and pursue it. Angela Corey is a special prosecutor with the specific duty to try the case involving Zimmerman's shooting of Martin. Disclosures, by her, about past, unproven, behavior are irrelevant, prejudicial, and probably unethical...but, then, so was her sham of an arrest affidavit.
Unless they're able to extort a plea bargain out of Zimmerman, the murder charge goes the way of the Duke LaCrosse rape charges. After that, I bet nothing comes of the other character smears made during the whole ordeal. But, that's only if the extortion fails. It's quite possible they'll get a plea out of Zimmerman...and, no one benefits from that, except Corey.
If Zimmerman had been molesting Witness #9, consistently and persistently, over a period of 10 years; at the bottom of my question list is Why isn't Zimmerman in jail?
First question is:
"Why didn't her parents pursue criminal prosecution?"
"Why didn't local authorities (if it was reported) pursue criminal prosecution?"
"What missing from her account that results in no criminal prosecution of Zimmerman and him being left alone over the intervening years?"
"What evidence is there that any of her allegations are true?"
"What was hers and Zimmerman's relationship, otherwise?"
But, forgive me for not just uncritically accepting Zimmerman is child molester because Angela Corey releases information -- unrelated to her charge -- from an unnamed Witness #9.
to the bold: of course he is going to paint a picture that makes him look like the victim here, so it is very likely he'll get off. also this is Florida, their justice system don't have a good track record(casey anthony).
its very plausible that she feels confident because zimmerman may be put in prison for a considerable amount of time. again, most victims are terrified of their perpetrators for years after the molestation took place. same reason so many of the sandusky victims came out years down the line, its not an easy thing to do obviously. how can she extort him when he has no money? he was sleeping on his daddy's couch@28, he broke.
bringing up character witnesses and a person's past is common in court cases and Corey isn't doing anything out of the ordinary.
I also bet as a kid you had no problem stripping butt ass naked with other children.
You're missing the point. It's not the picture he's painting but that of the known facts that tend to agree with his version of events.
I thought she told her parents at 16. Cats out of the bag then...where's the criminal prosecution when he was 18? And, I meant extort in the sense Corey is extorting a plea -- not Victim #9 extorting money.
A) We're not in court and B) any attempt by Corey to present Witness #9 in a court of law to testify to Zimmerman's character would be stopped because, 1) The crime she alleges hasn't been proven, 2) testimony on unproven past behavior is inadmissible unless it relates directly to the crime being tried or to motive, and 3) Corey knows this.
The only reason for the disclosure is to taint a potential jury. Period.
the facts you speak of can go either way. In my eyes, trayvon was walking home, talking to his gf and bringing his brother candy and tea. he was followed and in fear for his life then cornered and shot. that's how I view it.
she told her parents at 16 and told the investigators 2 months ago. just like we're seeing in this here thread, meny people wouldn't have believed her because it would be he say/she say.
and Corey's tactics are fair and ethical.
Investigators asked the woman why she was coming forward now. "This is the first time in my life that I'm not afraid of him," she replied.
What's her parents' excuse?
Cornered? Where? Are you even familiar with the layout of the scene?
From the time Zimmerman exclaimed to the 911 operator " ! He ran" to the end of the conversation is more than 2 minutes. If, in fact, Martin was running -- , walking fast, he was less than a minute from his condominium and just a few seconds from where the shooting occurred.
What was Martin doing for the remainder of Zimmerman's call with the 911 operator?
That's the most damning piece of evidence. Time.
Martin was never more than a few seconds from the safety of his home and yet, more than two minutes after he took off running he found himself less than a few seconds away from where he started running.
Explain that.
Additionally, what Martin (or Zimmerman for that matter) was doing prior to the altercation that resulted in the shooting is irrelevant. It doesn't matter if Martin was innocently walking home or casing houses. It doesn't matter if Zimmerman playing cowboy or if he was innocently doing what he thought was the right thing in a neighborhood plagued by property crimes. None of that matters.
What matters is who accosted who and whether or not it is reasonable to believe Zimmerman feared for his life and shot Martin in self-defense.
The time between Martin running and being shot tells me he didn't go home when he had the opportunity. The injuries suffered by Zimmerman tell me he was getting beat up pretty good and that a reasonable person might fear great bodily harm or death if he didn't stop the assault.
What's her parents excuse?
Sure.
Isn't it still he said, she said?
Again, what's the reason Angelo Corey disclosed this unproven allegation?
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