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    she said she's not afraid anymore.

    she's at least as believable as george.

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    What's her parents' excuse?
    If the allegations are true, this family was victimized. They are not in the wrong, and have nothing to answer for.

    Do you also blame the parents of child sexual abuse victims in the various cases that have come to light recently involving the Catholic church?

    Often we see that the allegations take years to come to surface because the victims are afraid and ashamed to talk to anyone about it.
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    It's pretty obvious that Yoni has no experience with victims of abuse.

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    I can't believe all this discussion over what a girl says happened from when she was 8 to 16 years old. It's very common for women to lie to their parents when caught. To say this happened one way or another is beyond stupidity. This is a he-said-she-said, and no way to prove either way.

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    the guy you've been defending is now a chester molester
    OMG...

    Are you really that dumb?

    Less than two years difference in age...

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    The only reason for the disclosure is to taint a potential jury. Period.
    Yep.

    There can be no other reason but to give perspective jurors another reason to lie to be an active juror to see him go to jail.

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    Do any of you lib s believe in justice?

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    What about tolerance and equality? Aren't those two major parts in the liberal movement?

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    What about tolerance and equality? Aren't those two major parts in the liberal movement?
    No .

    They are acting as if women are defenseless.

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    I can't believe all this discussion over what a girl says happened from when she was 8 to 16 years old. It's very common for women to lie to their parents when caught.
    When was she "caught"?

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    It doesn't really matter. None of this will be admissable in a Florida Court.

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    No .

    They are acting as if women are defenseless.
    And you're acting like a naive dumbass for not considering the fact that people in an abusive relationship are often too scared to leave....

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    she said she's not afraid anymore.

    she's at least as believable as george.
    ha, so according to you, not believable at all

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    It doesn't really matter. None of this will be admissable in a Florida Court.
    Disagree. It might not be admissible but this hurts Zimmerman's case way worse than purjury or anything else that has happened subsequent to the shooting of Martin. This is the kind of prejudicial evidence that can lead to a mistrial in my opinion.

    One of the associates I work with suggested that she thinks the prosecutor will eventually drop the case and that they released this as sort of an FU to Zimmerman.

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    ha, so according to you, not believable at all
    no, according to you, very believable.

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    It doesn't really matter. None of this will be admissable in a Florida Court.
    Not unless the defense opens the door by introducing evidence that GZ is a person of good character. If the defense opens the door, you will be able to hear a garbage truck backing up to the courtroom door with a load of bad character evidence to be provided in damning detail by W9 and anyone else they can find between now and the trial. According to W9, btw, there is another victim, but she is reluctant to come forward. Who knows, she might change her mind. For example, think of the recently concluded Sandusky case.

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    no, according to you, very believable.
    , because I said she's as believable as george. ing insane

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    It will be inadmissable. I cut and pasted this from a former Florida prosecutor that is now a defense atorney...


    The evidence would inadmissible in Florida as it violates the Williams Rule. Williams v. State is the 1959 Florida Supreme Court ruling pertaining to "similar fact evidence." The cite is Williams v. State, 110 So. 2d 654, (Fla. 1959). I am a former Florida prosecutor and current criminal defense attorney. I am very familiar with Williams Rule evidence and successfully argued as recently as two weeks ago that evidence which ran afoul of the Williams case was inadmissible in a trial (which I won). Here's the link for the Williams case on
    Google Scholar: http://scholar.google.com/scholar_ca...&as_sdt=2%2C10

    williams v. state - Google Scholar

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    Multiple assault charges
    Assaulting a police officer
    Resisting arrest
    Bullying cowokers
    Lying under oath
    Sexual molestation

    Remind me who the thug in this case is again?

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    ^ waits for wild cobra's response to this.

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    It will be inadmissable. I cut and pasted this from a former Florida prosecutor that is now a defense atorney...


    The evidence would inadmissible in Florida as it violates the Williams Rule. Williams v. State is the 1959 Florida Supreme Court ruling pertaining to "similar fact evidence." The cite is Williams v. State, 110 So. 2d 654, (Fla. 1959). I am a former Florida prosecutor and current criminal defense attorney. I am very familiar with Williams Rule evidence and successfully argued as recently as two weeks ago that evidence which ran afoul of the Williams case was inadmissible in a trial (which I won). Here's the link for the Williams case on
    Google Scholar: http://scholar.google.com/scholar_ca...&as_sdt=2%2C10

    williams v. state - Google Scholar
    The point is that the damage is already done. Whether it gets in or not.

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    so, you're saying that if the defense trots up a bunch of family and friends telling the court how wonderful george is, the prosecution can't do the opposite?

    not buying that. ever heard of refuting evidence?

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    so, you're saying that if the defense trots up a bunch of family and friends telling the court how wonderful george is, the prosecution can't do the opposite?

    not buying that. ever heard of refuting evidence?
    Character witnesses

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    so, you're saying that if the defense trots up a bunch of family and friends telling the court how wonderful george is, the prosecution can't do the opposite?

    not buying that. ever heard of refuting evidence?
    No.

    I just quoted what a former prosecutor in Florida and current defense attorney in Florida said.

    Argue with him.

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    It will be inadmissable. I cut and pasted this from a former Florida prosecutor that is now a defense atorney...


    The evidence would inadmissible in Florida as it violates the Williams Rule. Williams v. State is the 1959 Florida Supreme Court ruling pertaining to "similar fact evidence." The cite is Williams v. State, 110 So. 2d 654, (Fla. 1959). I am a former Florida prosecutor and current criminal defense attorney. I am very familiar with Williams Rule evidence and successfully argued as recently as two weeks ago that evidence which ran afoul of the Williams case was inadmissible in a trial (which I won). Here's the link for the Williams case on
    Google Scholar: http://scholar.google.com/scholar_ca...&as_sdt=2%2C10

    williams v. state - Google Scholar
    No.

    I just quoted what a former prosecutor in Florida and current defense attorney in Florida said.

    Argue with him.
    No, you said it will be inadmissible.

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