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    No, you said it will be inadmissible.
    It won't be admitted because it's not evidence of anything related to this case.

    As elbamba alluded to, it's been admitted into the court of public opinion......which in this case is worse for Zimmerman.

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    It won't be admitted because it's not evidence of anything related to this case.

    As elbamba alluded to, it's been admitted into the court of public opinion......which in this case is worse for Zimmerman.
    Not arguing the validity of the statement. Just pointing out the CC represented it as fact and then backtracked saying he didn't say it.

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    Already worse than the Casey Anthony trial and this one hasn't even started yet.

    I wonder where the riots will be if he's found not guilty?

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    Already worse than the Casey Anthony trial and this one hasn't even started yet.

    I wonder where the riots will be if he's found not guilty?
    oh...I think it'll be easy to narrow down

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    No, you said it will be inadmissible.
    Fine, I said it based on the opinion and case law cited by a former prosecutor and current defense attorney in Florida, not the opinion of some blowhard asswipe on an internet messageboard.

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    And you're acting like a naive dumbass for not considering the fact that people in an abusive relationship are often too scared to leave....
    No, they are treating the allegations as fact. I am only but pointing out alternative possibilities, and keep an open mind to this being either way.

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    so, you're saying that if the defense trots up a bunch of family and friends telling the court how wonderful george is, the prosecution can't do the opposite?

    not buying that. ever heard of refuting evidence?
    Rebuttle witnesses are usually allowed but there testimony has to be relevant and it cannot be prejudicial, especially in criminal cases. Usually, you can only use crimes from the past if they deal with honesty. For example, if Zimmerman is prosecuted for perjury, his perjury could be used against him if he testifies as it would go to show that he is untrustworthy.

    If you read the girl's testimony, it offers very little with respect to what happened the night Martin was shoot and whether or not Zimmerman was standing his ground. You cannot just parade evidence that the defendant is a bad person. The prosecution must present evidence that supports a second degree murder charge. An allegation of rape does not support this and is highly prejudicial. It cannot go to his character as it is completely undo ented.

    Her closest comment that would be considered relevant is that the family doesn't like black people unless they act white. Of course, the family is not on trial and she could not cite a single instance that supports Zimmerman was racist. She did say that his Mom does not like Obama. Of course, Obama is white so that defeats that argument.

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    Already worse than the Casey Anthony trial and this one hasn't even started yet.

    I wonder where the riots will be if he's found not guilty?
    The better question will be what happens if the prosecution drops the case. Which they very well could if witness 9 is the best evidence they have.

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    Rebuttle witnesses are usually allowed but there testimony has to be relevant and it cannot be prejudicial, especially in criminal cases. Usually, you can only use crimes from the past if they deal with honesty. For example, if Zimmerman is prosecuted for perjury, his perjury could be used against him if he testifies as it would go to show that he is untrustworthy.

    If you read the girl's testimony, it offers very little with respect to what happened the night Martin was shoot and whether or not Zimmerman was standing his ground. You cannot just parade evidence that the defendant is a bad person. The prosecution must present evidence that supports a second degree murder charge. An allegation of rape does not support this and is highly prejudicial. It cannot go to his character as it is completely undo ented.

    Her closest comment that would be considered relevant is that the family doesn't like black people unless they act white. Of course, the family is not on trial and she could not cite a single instance that supports Zimmerman was racist. She did say that his Mom does not like Obama. Of course, Obama is white so that defeats that argument.
    i did not read her testimony. just used it as an example should the defense line up a bunch of character witnesses.

    can't see him testifying. tbh that would be subject to opening many doors, if the prosecution has any talent at all.

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    No.

    I just quoted what a former prosecutor in Florida and current defense attorney in Florida said.

    Argue with him.
    I remember you quoting Dershowitz as well. He is reaffirming what he has argued which is equivalent to masturbation. Could you point us to the salient portions of the decision are or are you just going to leave it at anonymous lawyer?

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    No, they are treating the allegations as fact. I am only but pointing out alternative possibilities, and keep an open mind to this being either way.
    You forgot to add 'as long as it doesn't stop me from blaming the black kid.'

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    You forgot to add 'as long as it doesn't stop me from blaming the black kid.'
    There you go showing your bigotry again.

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    There you go showing your bigotry again.
    Speaking of bigotry:

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...&postcount=227

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    Are you saying that using statistical facts is a form of bigotry?

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    Are you saying that using statistical facts is a form of bigotry?
    yeah all of that was based on stats.

    You said black people were lazy. You said that they were not as well spoken. You said that they did not want to better themselves and instead get handouts. You said you don't like most blacks.

    Yeah that all was based on statistical analysis.

    Dear spaghetti monster, you are a coward as much as you are an asshole bigot.

    I can back that up with stats too. DERP!!

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    yeah all of that was based on stats.

    You said black people were lazy. You said that they were not as well spoken. You said that they did not want to better themselves and instead get handouts.
    Liar.

    I said no such thing.

    Show me the exact quote you are taking out of context and i will explain it to your pea-brain.
    You said you don't like most blacks.
    I also said I don't like most whites.

    I think it's safe to say I don't like most people I meet.

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    I cannot believe how much of a coward you are. If you want to know where you said that click the link. You're reminding me of aspie claiming that he never said he thought he had aspergers.

    Click the link it's right there. You even go so far as to say that there is a difference between the races after saying derogatory things about black folks.

    You are a scary combination of dumb and delusional willful ignorance.

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    I cannot believe how much of a coward you are. If you want to know where you said that click the link. You're reminding me of aspie claiming that he never said he thought he had aspergers.

    Click the link it's right there. You even go so far as to say that there is a difference between the races after saying derogatory things about black folks.

    You are a scary combination of dumb and delusional willful ignorance.
    Why are you so ing stupid? If you mean the sentence "Blacks tend not to," then I suggest you do some fact checking as to words and phrase meanings. It's a generalization based on statistics, and not a statement that carries fact for all. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Period. However, my observations of life over these last many decades tell me that in general, blacks are lazier as a class as other races.

    What other observations and or fact that show poorly on a class do you want to call racist, bigotry, etc? Does using the statistics that show blacks commit more crime per capita than whites mean one is racist?

    My God man... Grow up. Stop being butthurt over the truth.

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    Why are you so ing stupid? If you mean the sentence "Blacks tend not to," then I suggest you do some fact checking as to words and phrase meanings. It's a generalization based on statistics, and not a statement that carries fact for all. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Period. However, my observations of life over these last many decades tell me that in general, blacks are lazier as a class as other races.

    What other observations and or fact that show poorly on a class do you want to call racist, bigotry, etc? Does using the statistics that show blacks commit more crime per capita than whites mean one is racist?

    My God man... Grow up. Stop being butthurt over the truth.
    you and your pathetic little black and white world you live in. I hope your world gets sucked in by a blackhole one day.

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    I also said I don't like most whites.

    I think it's safe to say I don't like most people I meet.
    You could have just said you don't like most people.

    But you separated them into colors first.

    © Wild Cobra

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    You could have just said you don't like most people.

    But you separated them into colors first.

    © Wild Cobra
    It's how I separate the wanna-be Jesse Jackson's and wanna-be Al Sharpton's. See people's prejudicial reactions at work. So many people here are prejudicial, it's ridiculous. Where is the acceptance the left keeps preaching to all? Why can't you all accept that I refuse to be a politically correct lemming?

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    Zimmerman issued another apology. He said he prays for the family every day. God bless

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    I used to love them, but I had to kill them.

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    Zimmerman issued another apology. He said he prays for the family every day. God bless
    he just lying again.

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    he wasn't praying when he was blowin through that cash! lol

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