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    Why are you so ing stupid? If you mean the sentence "Blacks tend not to," then I suggest you do some fact checking as to words and phrase meanings. It's a generalization based on statistics, and not a statement that carries fact for all. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Period. However, my observations of life over these last many decades tell me that in general, blacks are lazier as a class as other races.

    What other observations and or fact that show poorly on a class do you want to call racist, bigotry, etc? Does using the statistics that show blacks commit more crime per capita than whites mean one is racist?

    My God man... Grow up. Stop being butthurt over the truth.
    Those stats are deeply and dangerously flawed. Inaccurate. Period.

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    first time watching faux news and i can see why it gets such a bad wrap.

    this zimmerman interview is so scripted its disgusting. dude said he wouldnt do anything different that night smh.

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    first time watching faux news and i can see why it gets such a bad wrap.

    this zimmerman interview is so scripted its disgusting. dude said he wouldnt do anything different that night smh.
    That would suggest he did something wrong.

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    He said that? He wouldn't do anything different? He wouldn't announce himself to avoid a needless death? ed up.

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    He said that? He wouldn't do anything different? He wouldn't announce himself to avoid a needless death? ed up.
    Announced himself? He contends Martin blind-sided him. How do you announce yourself to someone approaching you without your knowledge?

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    aye yoni, go play in traffic. now is not the time.

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    aye yoni, go play in traffic. now is not the time.
    Hey, Trill; GFY. This thread is for discussing the Martin shooting.

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    Those stats are deeply and dangerously flawed. Inaccurate. Period.
    Maybe they are, maybe they aren't.

    Did you see where I said:

    "If I'm wrong, I'm wrong."

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    Why are you so ing stupid? If you mean the sentence "Blacks tend not to," then I suggest you do some fact checking as to words and phrase meanings. It's a generalization based on statistics, and not a statement that carries fact for all. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Period. However, my observations of life over these last many decades tell me that in general, blacks are lazier as a class as other races.

    What other observations and or fact that show poorly on a class do you want to call racist, bigotry, etc? Does using the statistics that show blacks commit more crime per capita than whites mean one is racist?

    My God man... Grow up. Stop being butthurt over the truth.

    The hard facts are simply that more black people fall into that social class that wants the government handouts.
    This is bull as more white people are on welfare in this country.

    Hispanics tend to accel rather well in this nation after a generation or two. They have work ethics. Blacks tend not to.
    'Tend not to' is a generalization of the entire race, dolt. And show me a statistic that says black people 'tend not to' have work ethics.

    And as long as one race has more than ten times as many who act like animals. people will fear them.
    I'm sure you have stats for this one.

    Well, in my experience, far more blacks speak poorly than white. Being in the Army for 11 years, I saw a good mix of people from all over. I say there's a significant difference.
    This one speaks for itself.

    I don't like most black people. There are very few who I have met that grew up in a cultural setting I have any respect for. Most I have met are out right thugs, and lack integrity. I could say I don't like black people, but there are some exceptions. If I based all my decisions on statistics, I would stay clear of blacks.
    Hmm, you saying you do not like another group of people somehow makes you not racist for saying that you don't like black people? You are such a coward.

    The Jacksons and Sharptons of this world need to stop blaming the white man, and blame their own people for presenting themselves so poorly to the rest of us.
    So what is the statistic for for presenting themselves so poorly to 'us?'

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    Announced himself? He contends Martin blind-sided him. How do you announce yourself to someone approaching you without your knowledge?
    Lol blind-sided? No Zimmerman shown himself to Martin on more than one occasion. The final confrontation they walked up to each other and still Zimmerman failed to announce himself. He threatened him instead by telling a black guy "what are you doing in my nieghborhood?" Do you know the historical aspect to those words? Very threatening.

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    Lol blind-sided? No Zimmerman shown himself to Martin on more than one occasion.
    If Martin saw him, what would Zimmerman announce? Why wouldn't the same be required of Martin?

    The final confrontation they walked up to each other and still Zimmerman failed to announce himself.
    Not according to Zimmerman. He was walking back to his vehicle when Martin approached him from the left and behind.

    He threatened him instead by telling a black guy "what are you doing in my nieghborhood?" Do you know the historical aspect to those words? Very threatening.
    Actually, both Zimmerman and Martin's girlfriend (who was on the phone with Martin at the time) disagree with this characterization.

    Both agree Martin spoke first when he said something to the effect of "what do you want" or "why are you following me" after which the girlfriend states the person to whom Martin spoke said, "what are you doing here?" [I don't think Zimmerman has said how he responded and the rest of his account isn't repeated by the girlfriend]

    From that point, Zimmerman has said Martin asked him, "Do you have a problem?" and that it quickly escalated to Martin punching him in the face, breaking his nose. Zimmerman stated, tonight, that Martin attacked when he reached for his cell phone and that from that point on he was fighting for his life.

    And, as I've said before, all the known evidence tends to support this version of events.

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    And, again, no one answers the question of how Martin ended up less than a hundred feet from where Zimmerman told police "he ran," when it was a full two-minutes before the end of Zimmerman's call.

    How far can you run in 2 minutes? How far can you walk in 2 minutes?

    Well, in this case, Martin could have probably crawled to his condominium in two minutes; that's how close he was to his house.

    It doesn't add up that Martin ended up at the scene of the shooting unless he made the decision to be there.

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    If Martin saw him, what would Zimmerman announce? Why wouldn't the same be required of Martin?
    Because Martin wasnt't the one stalker. He tired himself out by running from him and wanted to establish diplomacy to find out what his deal was. He should've announced that he was the neighborhood watchman.


    Not according to Zimmerman. He was walking back to his vehicle when Martin approached him from the left and behind.
    Not according to Zimmerman? He's a known liar.


    Actually, both Zimmerman and Martin's girlfriend (who was on the phone with Martin at the time) disagree with this characterization.

    Both agree Martin spoke first when he said something to the effect of "what do you want" or "why are you following me" after which the girlfriend states the person to whom Martin spoke said, "what are you doing here?" [I don't think Zimmerman has said how he responded and the rest of his account isn't repeated by the girlfriend]

    From that point, Zimmerman has said Martin asked him, "Do you have a problem?" and that it quickly escalated to Martin punching him in the face, breaking his nose. Zimmerman stated, tonight, that Martin attacked when he reached for his cell phone and that from that point on he was fighting for his life.

    And, as I've said before, all the known evidence tends to support this version of events.
    Where did all this bull come from? Nobody knows who did initial contact. Where is this "evidence" to support this speculation? I got mine from the interview. "What are you doin here" is still pretty bad to ask anyone and you know it.

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    And, again, no one answers the question of how Martin ended up less than a hundred feet from where Zimmerman told police "he ran," when it was a full two-minutes before the end of Zimmerman's call.

    How far can you run in 2 minutes? How far can you walk in 2 minutes?

    Well, in this case, Martin could have probably crawled to his condominium in two minutes; that's how close he was to his house.

    It doesn't add up that Martin ended up at the scene of the shooting unless he made the decision to be there.
    That's been answered a couple of times already in this thread.

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    That's been answered a couple of times already in this thread.
    Okay, answer it again because I didn't see it and I don't think there is any reasonable explanation other than Martin made the decision to wait until Zimmerman was off the phone and accosted him.

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    Okay, answer it again because I didn't see it and I don't think there is any reasonable explanation other than Martin made the decision to wait until Zimmerman was off the phone and accosted him.
    Martin tried shaking off his pursuer multiple times and was scared. After confirmation that Zimmerman was indeed chasing him, he didn't want to lead this stranger to the house where his little brother was. Pretty heroic of him tbh.

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    Because Martin wasnt't the one stalker. He tired himself out by running from him and wanted to establish diplomacy to find out what his deal was. He should've announced that he was the neighborhood watchman.
    A football player that tired out after a few feet of running? I don't buy it. Besides, Zimmerman said tonight it wasn't really a run as much as he kind of trotted off, (he said "skip," I think but, he was obviously trying to express that Martin wasn't hauling ass away from him.)

    In the context of this incident, two minutes is an eternity. In the two minutes after Zimmerman said Martin took off, Zimmerman walked completely across the block from where his car was parked to the the street on which he lived. He was headed back to where his car was parked when the shooting occurred. BUT.THAT.TOOK.TWO.MINUTES.

    What was Martin doing for those two minutes? Look at a Google Earth image of the scene and tell me Martin could be in his house ripping open a bag of Skittles and unscrewing the bottle of tea BEFORE Zimmerman ever completed his call with police.

    Not according to Zimmerman? He's a known liar.
    Except the evidence is consistent with his version of events. We know what Zimmerman was doing for the two minutes after Martin ran; he was walking and talking to Police on the phone. Ending up where the shooting occurred is perfectly consistent with his story of walking across to the other street and being on his way back to the car.

    Again, if you look at an overview of the scene, it would take about two minutes to walk the distance Zimmerman describes.

    Where did all this bull come from? Nobody knows who did initial contact. Where is this "evidence" to support this speculation? I got mine from the interview. "What are you doin here" is still pretty bad to ask anyone and you know it.
    If Martin's girlfriend is to be believed, and she gave an interview to the media early on (also somewhere in this thread), Zimmerman asking, "what are you doing here?" is in response to Martin -- who was on the phone with her when the two made contact -- asking Zimmerman "why are you following me?"

    She said, immediately after that exchange, the scuffle started and Trayvon's phone disconnected because she presumed the blue tooth ear piece had been knocked off or fell off.

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    Martin tried shaking off his pursuer multiple times and was scared. After confirmation that Zimmerman was indeed chasing him, he didn't want to lead this stranger to the house where his little brother was. Pretty heroic of him tbh.
    Nice fantasy. What do you have that supports any of it?

    Zimmerman was on the phone with Police, sitting stationary in his car when, at one point (shortly before Martin "skipped" off), and he reports Martin is APPROACHING HIM and reaching for something in his waistband.

    You're going to have to suggest Zimmerman was fabricating a scenario that would fit a series of event not yet known to anyone, even as he was on the phone with police.

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    Sorry Yoni I'm tired. We will have to continue this tomorrow. I wasn't expecting to post but couldn't resist.

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    his lawyer made him take a bath. lol

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    yoni refuses to accept that george is a liar.

    just like his beloved bush.

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    JackS, you'll be gratified to know your God planned for Z to murder M.

    http://www.latimes.com/news/la-naw-z...,4171414.story

    No word yet from the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

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    Yes my brother, it was God plan. God bless

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    How stupid is Zimmerman’s attorney to let him conduct an interview like that knowing what he would say?

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    How stupid is Zimmerman’s attorney to let him conduct an interview like that knowing what he would say?
    More like innocent, not stupid. God bless

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