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    Who wins?

    Miami still wins imo

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    ¯\(ツ)/¯ VBM's Avatar
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    Nash v. Chalmers - at this stage, a wash probably
    Kobe vs. Wade - Wash
    Artest vs. Lebron - Bron
    Pau vs. Bosh - Wash
    Dwight vs. - Dwight

    Laker Bench vs. Miami Bench - Miami

    Miami would handle business in 6 if it came down to it.

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    Probably would come down to which bench puts up a better effort. I'm guessing by the advanced age of the Lakers' bench coupled with the well-known healing effects of Miami on the old folks could surprise a few...if this were shuffleboard.

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    Only real advantage is Howard, if we have Bynum then it's still an advantage. I said it before, Lakers need to make a lot more moves. Namely replacing Pau, backing up Kobe, adding to the bench and getting a perimeter lock-down defender.

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    Lakers biggest weakness is perimeter defense and Miami's stars are the greatest perimeter players in the league. Against Miami Dwight will be forced out the paint or will be letting shooters get open.

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    Howard makes the Lakers the favorites out West but OKC will be no cake walk.

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    There isn't really any 4 out there to replace Pau...at least not one that can match up with Bosh. They do need a 2, if this were to go down, and if it's a backup--then maybe take on the JRichardson situation...though the money may be too wack to accept.

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    There isn't really any 4 out there to replace Pau...at least not one that can match up with Bosh. They do need a 2, if this were to go down, and if it's a backup--then maybe take on the JRichardson situation...though the money may be too wack to accept.
    Would be nice if Aldridgr wanted out of that cursed team.

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    Interesting fit Aldridge would be...

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    Ur a fkn wanker Venti Quattro's Avatar
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    The Lakers are not gonna beat Miami with scrubs like McScrub, Blake and Murphy.

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    There isn't really any 4 out there to replace Pau...at least not one that can match up with Bosh. They do need a 2, if this were to go down, and if it's a backup--then maybe take on the JRichardson situation...though the money may be too wack to accept.
    No need to replace Pau, he just needs to remember he's a 7fter. Lakers need to get rid of MWP and find a defender who can hit the three.

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    Miami still wins in 5, maybe 6 games.

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    No need to replace Pau, he just needs to remember he's a 7fter. Lakers need to get rid of MWP and find a defender who can hit the three.
    That's a hard thing to do--find someone with the energy to, say, guard LeBron and be able to hit the three with consistency? I don't know if there are anyone out there who can. Perhaps with Nash setting up MWP in the areas he likes it could work for the time being. It all depends on getting that right blend.

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    It really depends on factors other than Dwight. For example, does Kobe take 25 shots a game? Bynum is no slouch if he's motivated, and I've seen him take 3 defenders to the rack and dunk on them. Howard is more dominant, but he's no Shaq, except at the FT line.

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    Nash v. Chalmers - at this stage, a wash probably
    Kobe vs. Wade - Wash
    Artest vs. Lebron - Bron
    Pau vs. Bosh - Wash
    Dwight vs. - Dwight

    Laker Bench vs. Miami Bench - Miami

    Miami would handle business in 6 if it came down to it.
    Kobe is better than Wade...offensively and defensively. Lead the league in scoring last yr. Him sitting last game doesn't count either. Wade would not have felt the need to break Kobes nose to avoid being in one of his highlights.

    Jamison is better than Mike Miller and/ or Ray Allen. But I admit we need one more bench threat. If we pick up J-Rich in a deal for Howard, resign Hill, add Oneal for Vet min. and still keep Artest then its over..LA in a landslide...and for the record don't compare Nash and Chalmers...at best they score the same points..their both defensive liabilities...the Nash advantage is in assists, offense facilitation, and he simply won't miss if open. Give me Nash over Chalmers 10 out of 10 times over Chalmers in a le game or series.

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    Heatles in 5, as King James s on them es, tbh....

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    Sad thing is this: Miami has the coaching advantage and that's saying something...

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    I think when it comes down to late game possessions, Miami will go to Wade and Bron, and the Lakers will still rely heavily on Kobe ISO. 60% of that has to do with Kobe, and 40% of that has to do with the players surrounding Kobe. Gasol isn't going to suddenly sprout testicles, and Nash can go through spells of being turnover prone and/or worthlessly dribbling the clock down late in games.

    Ideally, the ball should go down-low to Howard, especially against Miami. But Kobe ultimately wants the ball in his hands, and Howard isn't exactly the guy you want taking any shots outside 7 feet. Inside of 7 feet, during crunch time, he's getting hacked and taking his brokedown shooting touch straight to the FT line.

    So as much as the lineup has changed, you still end up with Kobe playing hero ball and going 1v1, possibly against LeBron. I'll take LeBron/Wade over Kobe hero ball.

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    Sad thing is this: Miami has the coaching advantage and that's saying something...
    Not true...Lakers were great defensively last yr. Pau never showed up because of Bynums emergence and Bynum only wanted to shoot 3's, not play defensive, refuse to join team huddles, and refuse to get his hair cut...

    Give me Brown over Spo any day.

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    I think when it comes down to late game possessions, Miami will go to Wade and Bron, and the Lakers will still rely heavily on Kobe ISO. 60% of that has to do with Kobe, and 40% of that has to do with the players surrounding Kobe. Gasol isn't going to suddenly sprout testicles, and Nash can go through spells of being turnover prone and/or worthlessly dribbling the clock down late in games.

    Ideally, the ball should go down-low to Howard, especially against Miami. But Kobe ultimately wants the ball in his hands, and Howard isn't exactly the guy you want taking any shots outside 7 feet. Inside of 7 feet, during crunch time, he's getting hacked and taking his brokedown shooting touch straight to the FT line.

    So as much as the lineup has changed, you still end up with Kobe playing hero ball and going 1v1, possibly against LeBron. I'll take LeBron/Wade over Kobe hero ball.
    You guys don't realize Dwight will beast on Miami down low and trust me that perimeter advantage Miami has will be Marginal at best given their desire to drive the ball to where the best defensive big will be waiting.

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    Heatles in 5, as King James s on them es, tbh....
    After Artest gets through harrasing that negro he won't have as much energy. We need Artests defensive. He may not stop Lebronze but he will slow him down and lead him right to Dwight...

    LA will exploit our inside and Nash will quarter back it all.

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    After Artest gets through harrasing that negro he won't have as much energy.

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    Kobe is better than Wade...offensively and defensively. Lead the league in scoring last yr. Him sitting last game doesn't count either. Wade would not have felt the need to break Kobes nose to avoid being in one of his highlights.

    Jamison is better than Mike Miller and/ or Ray Allen. But I admit we need one more bench threat. If we pick up J-Rich in a deal for Howard, resign Hill, add Oneal for Vet min. and still keep Artest then its over..LA in a landslide...and for the record don't compare Nash and Chalmers...at best they score the same points..their both defensive liabilities...the Nash advantage is in assists, offense facilitation, and he simply won't miss if open. Give me Nash over Chalmers 10 out of 10 times over Chalmers in a le game or series.
    Can't factor in scoring when Kobe is the lead dog on his team and Wade deferred to LeBron. I don't see an advantage either way. Whoever is better on a given night probably depends on whether the game is in LA or Miami (i.e. who the refs are sucking off that night).

    You're also forgetting Rashard Lewis and Udonis Haslem on the Miami bench.

    As far as Nash goes, I actually think he'd be better served on the second unit. Kobe needs the ball in his hands. He's not a spot-up shooter. Nash will be dangerous with Pau and Dwight for sure, but will Kobe take a backseat to let him do work with them? "Facilitating the offense" would essentially mean keeping the rock out of Kobe's hands.

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    Miami in 5 or 6. The Lakers still have an old and slow team. Those teams don't fare well in a 7 game series against Miami. That being said, Howard won't be a Laker. Orlando will pull the deal off the table eventually.

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