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Nice doubletalk, but implying that violent movies play a role in mass murders IS partially blaming the movie industry for the actions of sick, deranged people....
The blame is 100% on the shooter, deal with it and stop trying to push an agenda....
It may have certainly gave him ideas if he ever watched this film but I really think it has to do with what's going on in the shooter's head.
Nice doubletalk, but implying that violent movies play a role in mass murders IS partially blaming the movie industry for the actions of sick, deranged people....
The blame is 100% on the shooter, deal with it and stop trying to push an agenda....
Whats wrong with that? Whats wrong with wanting to minimize the number of innocent fatalities?
We could ban swords, too. But theyre pretty easy to make. Regardless, theyre not even close to as lethal as a gun.
Thats why the military switch from swords to guns a few hundred years ago.
Bumping this post AGAIN.
Programming? now you're making stuff up. That in itself abdicates the killer from responsibility, or anyone from any responsibility for anything.
I was mean to someone online? It's just my programming. I saw a TV show where someone makes fun of someone else.
straddling the fence on this is almost as much a fail as going all in on blaming movies.
Bumping this post....
Is that the most effective way you could think of someone trying to kill with a vehicle?
Not blowing through a busy crosswalk a 70 mph.
Not driving like a maniac on sidewalks.
Not pushing the brakes and causing a pile-up on the highway.
You really can't think of a way to kill 13 people with a car?
How is he straddling the fence? He's saying the movie could have had some influence on the shooter.
Movie night is cancelled and we are staying in tonight.
No agenda. You believe we are all separate. I don't.
We are all responsible.
I'm not responsible for this mother er at all. If you are you should lock yourself up.
And by saying this, he is implying that the people who worked on, advertised, and distributed the movie are somehow partially to blame if a violent nutjob commits a mass murder..... the murderer is 100% to blame, period, can't believe I have to repeat this, tbh....
It's sad that certain people have decided to co-opt this tragedy to argue for gun control and nanny-state censorship agendas, but it is what it is....
Anything could have had an influence, so there's no point in picking out something specific.
I'm not responsible at all..... this is yet another lame excuse for the inexcusable....
enlightened bull
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This Jessica Ghawi thing is really saddening. My heart goes out to that family as does the rest of the families affected by this ordeal...
A car is an extremely impractical tool for killing people. Not only does your victims have to be outside, but you have to hit them without hitting anything (light post etc) that would disable the vehicle.
Theres no chance in this dude manages to kill 13 and injure 50 others with his CAR. And while there exists wild scenarios that Im sure you could come up with as to how to kill the masses with a car, it not only actually happened using guns, but it was EASY.
A gun is infinitely more effective as a killing tool.
Chump-lite is suddenly bold again because Chumpie is here.
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Laughable.
A crazy person can go on a rampage in a kindergarten school and break the necks of children...should we regulate body parts too?
What you dont understand is even if the government bans guns, it will only make things easier for criminals to victimize people because criminals do not obey laws hence why they are called criminals.
This is an isolated event and does not happen everyday because not everyone is mentally crazy like the batman shooter is.
And why do you keep on bumping this stupid list about guns anyway? Because you think this is relevant to your argument? An argument pointing out an advancement in technology and machinery?
Guns are a product of a progressing civilization. Of course it will be smaller, easier to operate and more practical for it's use which is for protection and to make an uneven fight equal.
Just like we make lighters now so we don't rely on flint stones anymore for or fire.
Bumping this post....
I completely agree with you. This isn't the result of guns, or movies, or video games or one individual asshole with an evil agenda. I don't know how anybody could take such a granular view of a tragedy like this.
This is about a huge, hard to define and wholly ed up sense of dread that's coursing through our society. It's a deep-seeded sadness and fear that almost everybody is complicit in. This is a sad place and time for a lot of very scared people. Particularly American people. And I hate when the pressure gets to be too much. That's what causes incidents like this. A cultural sadness so deep and scary that it almost brainwashes and turns an otherwise normal American into someone who just can't take it anymore and who completely loses touch with reality and any shred of respect for human lives.
The victims of something like this deserve a much harder look at the root cause than some reductive, stupid, trite, 'this kid is just evil' or 'guns are just evil' or 'movies are just evil' rhetoric or agenda. It's everything and everyone; it's who we are as a people. Those in this thread who are on the defensive about a particular issue or cause, are an insult to the lives lost. And they're perpetuating the problem even as we speak.
Originally Posted by silverblk mystix
You are making up stuff.
I said there are a lot of reasons and a lot of things are responsible for things like this to happen. Ultimately the killer is responsible. He did it. No one else.
If you dig deeper and see how this killer was put together- you will begin to unravel how he was programmed-as we all were.
Some people take this programming and never hurt anyone. Some people take this programming and hurt others. Ultimately there are a lot of factors involved in a tragedy and the reasons that led to it.
I never placed sole blame on anything.
If you want to do yourself a favor- watch the movie "Rampage."
I kid you not- and as I said in an early post- the first reaction that I and the Mrs. had after watching it is - why?
Why would a director be this irresponsible and make this movie- it is just begging for trouble?
Watch it and see if you don't get a similar feeling. After reading the details of last nights tragedy - this movie came right back to me. It happened just like I thought it would immediately upon watching it.
Was it the movie industry's fault or the director? No.
But it might have played a tiny part in it.
Misrepresent much?
in on the 16th page but lol at op saying only in america. because we're definitely known to do stupid like start mass riots after soccer matches.
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