Shooting in Batman premiere?

[da_suns_fan]

What about the rest of us who are not crazy?
I have 9 pistols, 2 rifles, a shotgun and about 25k ammo but I choose not to go to crowded places and shoot everyone.
Why should I lose my right just because a mentally unstable person chose to do wrong?

Because people go crazy all the time.

I doubt this kid PLANNED on going crazy someday. We have no idea what his mental health is. But I think its fair to say we dont entirely understand how the brain works and what leads to this type of meltdown.

You might not be a danger because youre mentally stable. But if you did have a nervous breakdown (or whatever), a lot people could be in danger.

Thats not a direct swipe at you, rather anyone who owns firearms.

Thats why its irresponsible to allow semi-automatic weapons to the masses. Humans are inherently too unpredictable.

[mavs>spurs]

Because people go crazy all the time.

I doubt this kid PLANNED on going crazy someday. We have no idea what his mental health is. But I think its fair to say we dont entirely understand how the brain works and what leads to this type of meltdown.

You might not be a danger because youre mentally stable. But if you did have a nervous breakdown (or whatever), a lot people could be in danger.

Thats not a direct swipe at you, rather anyone who owns firearms.

Thats why its irresponsible to allow semi-automatic weapons to the masses. Humans are inherently too unpredictable.

were they unpredictable back in 1776 whenever we became a free people thanks to gun ownership rights?

[WeNeedLength]

Someone mentioned he bought all his guns at Bass Pro Shop. Link?

Do they actually sell assault rifles there? If so, that's pretty dumb...

[Spurtacus]

[DMC]

Problem: the black market doesn't have background checks, and that's where the crazies will go if all guns were to be banned....

The problem with background checks is that a dealer has the right to check your background, but the average citizen does not have such right. I can sell my gun to my neighbor and I couldn't do a background check even if I wanted to. It would be an invasion of privacy to do so.

In the future there could be a requirement where two parties who wish to to a firearm transaction have to have a dealer involved for the background check, but that would require registration of serial numbers and that's probably not going to happen. Nazi Germany screwed that pooch already.

[djohn2oo8]

Someone mentioned he bought all his guns at Bass Pro Shop. Link?

Do they actually sell assault rifles there? If so, that's pretty dumb...

I've seem them there and at Academy.

[Clipper Nation]

Thats why its irresponsible to allow semi-automatic weapons to the masses. Humans are inherently too unpredictable.

Humans are too unpredictable, yet you want to preemptively take everyone's guns away IN CASE they go crazy (even though you can't predict if they'll go crazy at all, and if they do, you can't predict how the insanity would manifest itself).... you don't see an issue with that logic?

[Nathan89]

Of course you can.

But its A LOT harder than just driving to Bass Pro Shop.

"A LOT harder" means basically nothing in preventing something like this. TBH, I think you're overstating the raise in difficulty in obtaining the guns. In reality it wouldn't really deter these people from either getting a gun or killing masses in other ways.

[DMC]

Someone mentioned he bought all his guns at Bass Pro Shop. Link?

Do they actually sell assault rifles there? If so, that's pretty dumb...

He didn't have an assault rifle.

An assault rifle is an automatic rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.[1] Assault rifles are the standard infantry weapons in most modern armies. Assault rifles are categorized in between light machine guns, which are intended more for sustained automatic fire in a light support role, and submachine guns, which fire a pistol cartridge rather than a rifle cartridge.
Examples of assault rifles include the StG 44, AK-47,[2] M16 rifle, QBZ-95, Heckler & Koch G36, and Enfield SA80.


Having an AK look alike doesn't mean you have an assault rifle. What he had was no different technically than a semi-auto deer rifle.

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

that will be the least of your worries considering there would be a civil war before they ever took away our 2nd amendment.

People better believe it. will hit the fan.

[ChumpDumper]

Serious question: Do you actually believe Alex Jones' bull ?

[da_suns_fan]

were they unpredictable back in 1776 whenever we became a free people thanks to gun ownership rights?

Yep, but you couldnt shoot 70 people in span of five minutes in 1776.

Thats why there was no such thing as "mass shootings" until the 1940s.

[Nathan89]

DA_suns_fan cuts his steak with a butter-knife imho.

[mavs>spurs]

Do you realize that Alex has over 20 million listeners weekly?

[mavs>spurs]

Yep, but you couldnt shoot 70 people in span of five minutes in 1776.

Thats why there was no such thing as "mass shootings" until the 1940s.

crofl crofl crofl the mob had automatic weapons and would murder people all the time. it's a societal problem, not a gun problem. guns don't kill people, people do.

[Clipper Nation]

Yep, but you couldnt shoot 70 people in span of five minutes in 1776.

And the vast majority of people don't shoot 70 people in the span of five minutes in 2012.....

[ChumpDumper]

Do you realize that Alex has over 20 million listeners weekly?

I heard him say something like that.

You didn't answer my question.

[Nathan89]

Yep, but you couldnt shoot 70 people in span of five minutes in 1776.

Thats why there was no such thing as "mass shootings" until the 1940s.

The internet allows people access to the instructions to making bombs.

Take away the internet.

[Clipper Nation]

Do you realize that Alex has over 20 million listeners weekly?

And 19,000,000 of those people probably listen ironically....

[mavs>spurs]

america has the highest violent crime rates and most people imprisoned by far of any other developed nation. many of those crimes involve no gun at all. we've become a sick, ed up society for whatever reason, it's time we looked at ourselves and the way we raise our children rather than trying to find a scapegoat. let's face it, the average american is selfish, immoral s who are too lazy to raise their kids properly. 3 year olds in the theatre what a bunch of bull .

[DisAsTerBot]

He didn't have an assault rifle.




Having an AK look alike doesn't mean you have an assault rifle. What he had was no different technically than a semi-auto deer rifle.

thank you, obviously said people know nothing of the evil guns they hate so much.

[mavs>spurs]

to put things into perspective, check out how many people we incarcerate here in this country

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration

it's a societal problem.

[ChumpDumper]

america has the highest violent crime rates and most people imprisoned by far of any other developed nation. many of those crimes involve no gun at all. we've become a sick, ed up society for whatever reason, it's time we looked at ourselves and the way we raise our children rather than trying to find a scapegoat.

Then why did you try to scapegoat government psyops?

[da_suns_fan]

Humans are too unpredictable, yet you want to preemptively take everyone's guns away IN CASE they go crazy (even though you can't predict if they'll go crazy at all, and if they do, you can't predict how the insanity would manifest itself).... you don't see an issue with that logic?

Nope. Its not illogical and plenty of other nations have taken the steps to outlaw semi-automatics.

People are unpredictable. We take risks like driving even though people are unpredictable, but we dont need to arm the public with mass killing tools when it just takes one guy to go ape- and 70 people who went to go see "Batman" get shot for no apparent reason.

Again, this is WHY we ban bombs, grenades, missiles and other machines whose sole purpose is to cause mass death.

[Spurs da champs]

Insanity connotes some kind of uncontrollable compulsion. From what little I know, this guy made a clear choice.