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Sitting on Howard is the dumbest thing they can do IMO.
It's a worthy gamble since he'll eventually agree to sign an extension with a team that trades for him. They don't have a single decent offer out there right now, so might as well just sit on Howard.
Sitting on Howard is the dumbest thing they can do IMO.
Jonathan Feigen: Rockets Royce White and Terrence Jones have signed their rookie deals, source said. Jeremy Lamb expected to sign in coming days. now
lol Orlando
How so? It's not like next year is a worthy tank year anyways. They're being offered complete crap, Howard has shown he's more about the money than where he plays, and Howard will surely agree to sign the extension somewhere else at the trade deadline when they might be able to peel a decent player or two out of whatever team wants him. What is the point of selling low when him walking for nothing isn't a whole lot worse? The only trade on the table that's reasonable is Bynum and picks, if and only if Bynum signs the extension immediately after. If he came around on signing their extension offer then Orlando should make the trade right away.
Sitting makes little sense. Whether it be the 3 team with Lakers and Rox or a direct deal with Houston, the offers will NOT get better. The Melo trade, Paul trade and even the Dwill trade were successful because the buying team KNEW they could convince that player to at least sign for one more year or they had the player (dwill) signed to an additional year. Why would the Rox give up more for less than a full season? If they get Dwight now they get buzz, an uptick on tix sales and promotion. They wait until trade deadline they get none of those things. Plus, if they trade now their new GM can flip those expirings for young talent at the deadline. Also if the Rox rookies develop then their value increases unless they flop.
What does taking a bad offer get them right now? I have to think more teams are going to try to get him in February when he makes it known he'll sign an extension. Howard's not walking away from the money. If he was, he would already be a Net. I can't understand all of you who think the Magic should fold their hand when the new CBA gives them a lot of leverage.
The offers won't get any better. It's a massive distraction. HOU's offer is also a solid one from a rebuild perspective with their ability to take multiple bad contracts, send young upside players and give first round picks.
Why would he agree to sign an extension just because it's the trade deadline and not now. If he's about the money, and teams really think that, they will make their offers knowing if they get him (even without a guarantee he will re-sign) he will re-sign due to money a la Dwill if what you say is true. Holding onto him only has one advantage: The possibility he could have a change of heart and stay - but that is so outrageous to think about that it's not enough of a reason to delay this.
What do the Magic do till February though? Sit on this storm? I like what Utah did with DWill... he wanted out, they shipped his ass out immediately, and started rebuilding... Magic is just postponing the agony
Now that they signed White and Jones, they can't be traded for 30 days. Leaving only Lamb and Motiejuanas.
Houston doesn't have anyone with huge upside and their picks won't be good after getting Howard. Also, DeVos is a billionaire. We're not talking about Peter Holt who's worth $80 million and therefore has to be really careful with costs.
He's bluffing. He had his opportunity to go where he wanted and decided not to take it, because he can't get the full extension in a sign and trade. He will eventually agree to sign an extension with another team. Why are you expecting him to not all of a sudden be about the money when he has already shown he is?Why would he agree to sign an extension just because it's the trade deadline and not now.
When he agrees to go to more teams they have a much bigger pot of talent to choose from in exchange. It's not like Houston has a Kidd-Gichrist or even a Rivers to offer in exchange like New Jersey did with Favors. Jeremy Lamb is a dime a dozen volume scorer and led UConn to a ridiculously disappointing season last year. Royce White has tons of red flags. Terrence Jones is a talented player with good size, but just isn't enough for Howard. Marcus Morris sucks. I'll give you that Motiejunas is an interesting prospect.If he's about the money, and teams really think that, they will make their offers knowing if they get him (even without a guarantee he will re-sign) he will re-sign due to money a la Dwill if what you say is true. Holding onto him only has one advantage: The possibility he could have a change of heart and stay - but that is so outrageous to think about that it's not enough of a reason to delay this.
Utah got a bigman who was thought to have enormous upside at the time. Favors hasn't lived up to his hype, but he was considered a far better prospect than anyone Houston can offer.
Though we wouldn't be giving our picks, Toronto's which is top 3 protected and Dallas's which I don't understand protection on that one.
Is the Toronto pick 2013 or 2014? A 2013 pick isn't tbh.
The solution at this point is clearly to trade his ass to to the Clippers and be done with it, tbh....
But hindsight is 20/20... what will the Magic land for Dwight? You just don't know. The thing is, until they deal him and start rebuilding it's all wasted time.
THURSDAY, 2:38pm: The pick going to the Rockets will be top-three protected in 2013, top-two protected in 2014 and 2015, and top-one protected in 2016 and 2017, tweets Jerome Solomon of the Houston Chronicle. Solomon adds that if the pick isn't in the lottery, the Raptors will keep it until the next season. If the pick doesn't meet these criteria for five seasons, Toronto's 2018 first-rounder will be sent to Houston no matter where it lands
http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2012/07/r...yle-lowry.html
Next year is a wasted season for them regardless. If the Magic land nothing and Howard walks in the summer, then big deal. If Houston had an Eric Gordon to pair with those picks then I would make the deal in a second, but they don't and I wouldn't. I don't see how you don't gamble here when you don't have a lot to lose.
I just don't see wasting the one asset they have because they're scared of a worst-case scenario that isn't a whole lot worse than the Houston offer.
Question: Do you believe Howard when he says he won't re-sign to where he's traded and do you believe that stance will still hold by February? That is the crux of the argument. I think he's bluffing. Houston clearly does too.
Last edited by baseline bum; 07-25-2012 at 03:57 PM.
So it's most likely a 2013 pick.
Most likely, still been reported that Orlando wants it in any deal. Though I must say I'm tired of them dealing with Orlando. It's at the point I'd rather just go young.
Also, it makes no sense to sign White, Jones, but not Lamb. Guess we'll see in upcoming days about that. If they trade Lamb, Parsons, AND Motiejuanas, small babies should duck for cover.
The Magic have no obligation to meet his demands if it does not serve their interests. He had the option to get out and choose what he wanted, but he took the money instead. Let his ass sit there.
I do believe that with all teams except Lakers or Knicks... I think Knicks are out of the picture. Dwight is Lakers bound, I have zero doubt about it at this point. The only way he doesn't end up there is that his back is damaged goods, IMO.
Howard doesn't have any real leverage now that the sign and trade has been killed by the new CBA.
@MarkBermanFox26 Per source: Rockets have signed all of their draft picks: Jeremy Lamb, Royce White, Terrence Jones, and Furkan Aldemir.
The only place Dwight makes up those $30 million in endorsements in no time is LA...
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