Exactly. I read somewhere the Lakers FO got so pissed at Orlando for keep tweaking the deal, they backed off to cool off somewhat. So Orlando has to decide.
This. My huckleberry is on fire. I get not wanting a bad deal but waiting is silly. Rox can offer the best straight deal, Lakers the best 3 way. Choose one and tank the season. Play some of those young Rox players. Make sure Lamb, Parsons and White go to Magic
Why is waiting silly if you don't want a bad deal? The season doesn't start for 3 months and the Houston deal isn't going to go away. Maybe you get lucky and Bynum gets so sick of the drama he agrees to sign the extension in Orlando. That would be awful to lose that because you had to make a bad trade with Houston today.
Or that foreign guy from their summer league squad. Rox have some great young talent, no stars but make sure you get at least 3 if a straight deal. If 3 way Magic can't be as greedy
Yes. It could.
Do you think a team is going to feel any safer because a guy like Dwight who only cares about getting his money is leveraged into saying he will agree to re-sign with you when he has caused all this chaos and could be re-signed then force his way out or not ever re-sign when he says he would and just walk in FA?
This.
All the reports suggest that Orlando wants a combination of young players, draft picks, and cap relief. Houston can offer all of those and presumably has an offer on the table. Why is it so hard to believe that Houston will increase it's offer as we get closer to opening night? It's a far more likely scenario, IMO, than one in which they take assets out of the offer or rescind the offer altogether.
I think if they are 100% sold on Drew, they could get him to re-sign in Orlando. I don't blame Rox for going after the bigger star but they could also get him re-sign as well. Magic just trying to decide if they want a proven all-star or straight prospects. Very few teams can offer both, and are willing to eat ty contracts, hence the 3 way deal rumors.
There is no reason for teams to up their offers. None. Even if Dwight is held at financial gun point and verbally says "I agree to re-sign if traded" this entire circus with him flip-flopping will cause severe doubt - especially if he had 0 interest before he was force to agree.
It is the exact reason ORL won't just tell him "we are not trading you - we know you want the money and we can offer the most and you will be forced into re-signing with us".
They know even if he re-signs, he will create chaos and force his way out shortly after.
Nah, great young talent is guys like Eric Gordon, Russell Westbrook, John Wall, DeMarcus Cousins, and so on. Houston has a lot of B-level talent.
Because increasing offer by giving up more players or eating more contracts makes Rox even LESS desirable ... Why would Dwight stay?
I don't believe it gets that far, but if it does then all the leverage shifts to Orlando. They'll be able to trade a Dwight Howard who is locked up for five years.
It very well could go away. If ORL waits then has to come to HOU because there is no other takers, HOU can easily say here is our final offer and make it less. They could also move on entirely. Things can change either way and HOU might get another offer from someone they feel is better. Lots of reasons to believe it could get worse for ORL.
At this point, HOU can't really up their offer too much. They are meeting all the demands to the best of their abilities.
You are right, great is exaggerating, good young talent with potential
In theory, yes, but we have tangible proof that players can absolutely cripple and hold franchises hostage. The same rules apply and if Dwight is screaming "if you trade me here I will make it ", not much leverage imo.
Dwight wanting out of Orlando is completely warranted with how hideous a team they put around him; it's basically the same situation LeBron was in when playing for Cleveland. You're making Howard sound like an unreasonable person for wanting out of there, as if he'd pull the same act anywhere else after signing an extension.
Houston won't up their offer for the simple fact they have an alternative to trading for Dwight by simply rebuilding and going young.
IMO, not the right question. The right question is: Why wouldn't Houston increase it's offer when faced with the possibility of losing any chance of acquiring Howard?
He is unreasonable, but that is not the point. You didn't address the logic of why other teams won't take Howard for his word if he is forced at gun point to agree to "re-sign" if traded.
Because they have nothing left to offer above what they are giving now along with the fact that at some point, all deals lose their luster. Not to mention, they might be able to get a deal from someone else that they feel is almost as good with less headache.
In that unlikely scenario, they'll be multiple acceptable destinations. I'm not suggesting that Orlando will deal him to Sacramento or Milwaukee.
Why would they? Not like they're on the verge of being contenders.
He's not being forced at gun-point.
You're trying to make every front office Orlando.
We really have no idea what they're offering now. Just lots of guesses, most of them from sources that are anonymous, biased or both.
1. You don't what their current offer is.
2. You don't know how much more it would take to get Orlando to bite.
3. So you don't know why they would or wouldn't increase the offer.
If you are saying the goal is to wait him out until the trade deadline where he will "change" his stance - that is exactly what it is. If you force him to say "I'll re-sign" in order to get his money, the destination doesn't become more desirable to him.
He has teams on his list - I don't see that changing just because ORL waits him out. He will still end up traded to the 3 most likely teams and waiting wont change that and the offers are pretty much what they are. They can only go backwards IMO, not too much more forward so why hassle with the headache at that point to milk an extra dollar.
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