Magic meeting with Dwight today, out of options

[DPG21920]

They've been inept for several years. I think that it's way too early to put that label on Hennigan. Trading Howard will be bad for Orlando, but they have no choice but to trade him. Hennigan is trying to mitigate the damage caused by that trade.

That is probably fair - but if that is the case I look to clean slate this and show what I can do. The best way to do that IMO is to get as much cap space as quickly as possible, the best draft picks and some players. In that order.

If that is the case, I can't think of another team that can give them more than HOU, but maybe the reports of HOU's offers are greatly exaggerated.

[baseline bum]

there's a big difference between a happy DH vs. an unhappy one imho. even if you could go all-in and get him, he ain't feeling much happier in houston playing with even tier supporting casts. he'll re-sign with your for $ sake but you'll still have to ship his ass elsewhere on his own request sooner or later

Honestly, I think he would be happier and would re-sign in Houston. They just have to convince the Magic to take their bag of beans in exchange.

[Latarian Milton]

It appears to me that ORL management is inept.

If it were true that teams know Dwight is only about the money and he will re-sign where ever he is traded - teams would make their best offers. A team watching ORL use the money tactic to wait Howard out and force him to say "I will re-sign" to gain leverage will know they can't trust Dwight at his word because of all this.

you don't wanna lose too much talent for him cuz even if you manage to go all-in and get him, you have no supporting casts for him and your team ain't gonna be much better than what orlando currently is, and the ass will cry to be traded again before long

[tesseractive]

They've been inept for several years. I think that it's way too early to put that label on Hennigan. Trading Howard will be bad for Orlando, but they have no choice but to trade him. Hennigan is trying to mitigate the damage caused by that trade.

Plus, there's a good chance other GMs aren't putting their best offers on the table, in hopes that they can sucker Hennigan. If I'm Hennigan as a new GM with a new coach, there's nothing I'd like better than to slam the door on the old era ASAP and move on. So a guy like Morey might easily be lowballing Hennigan in hopes that Hennigan will cave so that he can move on.

If there were more teams involved, it might be different. But with Howard only willing to go a limited number of places, it cuts down the possibilities. And with Bynum unwilling to go to most cities, the options for a Lakers deal are hard to work out too. In effect, if Hennigan can't find another deal to work he may simply be trying to get Houston to bid against themselves, something Morey's surely to smart to do.

[baseline bum]

That is probably fair - but if that is the case I look to clean slate this and show what I can do. The best way to do that IMO is to get as much cap space as quickly as possible, the best draft picks and some players. In that order.

If that is the case, I can't think of another team that can give them more than HOU, but maybe the reports of HOU's offers are greatly exaggerated.

I don't think next year's FA crop is all that good after Paul, and they already have enormous capspace for the summer after. I'm not that sure capspace is all that useful when you aren't LA, Miami, New York, or maybe Chicago though. Outside of the major markets capspace hasn't done too much good for teams. You try to build a team with capspace and you have a great shot at becoming a trainwreck like Detroit or Milwaukee. Maybe it eventually changes under the new CBA, but it hasn't yet.

[tesseractive]

Doubt that. They'll end up somewhere.

But if the Rockets are trying to wait until the Dwight situation sorts itself out before shuffling all those other pieces, it does give them an incentive to try to do a deal sooner rather than later.

But if they shuffle their other pieces before Dwight's situation is settled, it might make a deal harder to close.

[DPG21920]

I don't think next year's FA crop is all that good after Paul, and they already have enormous capspace for the summer after. I'm not that sure capspace is all that useful when you aren't LA, Miami, New York, or maybe Chicago though. Outside of the major markets capspace hasn't done too much good for teams. You try to build a team with capspace and you have a great shot at becoming a trainwreck like Detroit or Milwaukee. Maybe it eventually changes under the new CBA, but it hasn't yet.

Dwight Howard will probably be a FA next year

[Mel_13]

That is probably fair - but if that is the case I look to clean slate this and show what I can do. The best way to do that IMO is to get as much cap space as quickly as possible, the best draft picks and some players. In that order.

If that is the case, I can't think of another team that can give them more than HOU, but maybe the reports of HOU's offers are greatly exaggerated.

I think that it will be Houston and that Orlando wants to be sure that they've got everything that Houston is willing to offer. My personal prediction is that he gets traded to Houston before opening night, but not until all of Houston's rookies can be traded.

[DPG21920]

Also the FA class next year has the potential to be awesome:

Dwight Howard
Josh Smith
Ty Lawson
Stephen Curry
Chris Paul
Andrew Bynum
Monta Ellis
Serge Ibaka
James Harden
Tyreke Evans
Tiago Splitter
Manu Ginobili
Paul Milsap
Emeka Okafor

[DPG21920]

I think that it will be Houston and that Orlando wants to be sure that they've got everything that Houston is willing to offer. My personal prediction is that he gets traded to Houston before opening night, but not until all of Houston's rookies can be traded.

Well ORL forced that now because HOU just inked their rooks.

[tesseractive]

Well ORL forced that now because HOU just inked their rooks.

They can still trade them next month, right?

[Mel_13]

They can still trade them next month, right?

30 days after signing.

[djohn2oo8]

Sam Amico
Back to Dwight Howard. Source indicated if meeting with Magic (reportedly taking place now) doesn't go well, Magic likely to trade him to highest bidder -- as opposed to Howard's personal preference. Teams that could OK with a one-year rental, back in play.


http://sulia.com/channel/basketball/...source=twitter

[djohn2oo8]

Jarrod Rudolph: Sources: Howard informed Hennigan that he has no desire to stay with the Magic and will leave as a free agent if the team decides against now


Jarrod Rudolph: Sources: Magic GM Rob Hennigan had hour-long meeting with Dwight Howard today in LA. Howard reiterated his desire to be as soon a possible. 2 minutes ago

[Mel_13]

Ric Bucher thinks Jarrod Rudolph is a sycophant.

[Clipper Nation]

Sam Amico
Back to Dwight Howard. Source indicated if meeting with Magic (reportedly taking place now) doesn't go well, Magic likely to trade him to highest bidder -- as opposed to Howard's personal preference. Teams that could OK with a one-year rental, back in play.

Bull ... they'll just nitpick every offer to death like they always do, tbh....

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

Trade him to Houston. That way we Mavs fans can rejoice, knowing Dwight will be here next year

[djohn2oo8]

Jarrod Rudolph: Source: Magic GM Rob Hennigan not rushing to move Howard without a trade that offers "acceptable compensation" for the six-time All-Star 1 minute ago



good luck with that Hennigan.

[baseline bum]

Rocket fan needs to move on tbh. Hannigan just isn't interested in the Rockets garbage offer just like he wasn't when the Nets tried to offer crap.

[djohn2oo8]

Rocket fan needs to move on tbh. Hannigan just isn't interested in the Rockets garbage offer just like he wasn't when the Nets tried to offer crap.

Nets offer was leverage against Houston to up their offer as reported.

[Koolaid_Man]

Trade him to Houston. That way we Mavs fans can rejoice, knowing Dwight will be here next year

that's exactly what's going to happen if he's traded to Houston..I will my ass off @the Rockets if they give up their draft picks only for Howard to walk....this charades is pathetic...

[djohn2oo8]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Source w/ direct knowledge of Howard-Orlando meeting: "Dwight remained unchanged in his desire to be traded and has no intention of (Cont)"

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Source continued..."Signing another contract or extension in Orlando." Magic GM Rob Hennigan told Howard he's trying to trade him but ...

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
...but finding no acceptable deal. Magic waiting so long after draft and start of free agency to get serious on Howard deals has hurt offers

Hennigan..Game. Set. Match.

[Leon Black]

thinking Dwight stays in Houston
asik
lin
desperate s

[racm]

Hennigan
30 year old GM
plucked from Spurs/Thunder tree
indecisive

[tesseractive]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Source w/ direct knowledge of Howard-Orlando meeting: "Dwight remained unchanged in his desire to be traded and has no intention of (Cont)"

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Source continued..."Signing another contract or extension in Orlando." Magic GM Rob Hennigan told Howard he's trying to trade him but ...

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
...but finding no acceptable deal. Magic waiting so long after draft and start of free agency to get serious on Howard deals has hurt offers

Hennigan..Game. Set. Match.

Ouch.

The funniest thing would be if they just told him to go sit out the season so that his only option next summer was to sign the 4-year deal he doesn't want. (Unless he came crawling back to the Magic to get his cash, which would be even funnier.)