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Tony Mejia: "@cseehausen: When do Magic finally cave & take Rockets package? Leverage isn't getting any better" Clock's ticking, but there's still time. about 20 minutes ago
To be determined.
Tony Mejia: "@cseehausen: When do Magic finally cave & take Rockets package? Leverage isn't getting any better" Clock's ticking, but there's still time. about 20 minutes ago
You need to stop.
The opinion of some random guy, from Houston no less, that follows a basketball blogger on twitter doesn't add much to the discussion.
Mejia was right about Brooklyn no deal while ESPN was blowing smoke out of their asses. Also, you have yet to explain why deals would get better from here on.
You need to stop.
The opinion of some random guy, from Houston no less, that follows a basketball blogger on twitter doesn't add much to the discussion.
You need to learn how to read the tweets that you post. It wasn't Mejia's opinion that Orlando's leverage wasn't getting any better. It was the random guy from Houston who said that.
I haven't said the deals would get better from here on. My position has been quite clear.
Not in the tweet itself, in his other articles it clearly is his position. I was pointing out with the tweet that the deal will not be on the table that much longer.
http://www.probasketballnews.com/news/1101/Clearly, Orlando has lost the leverage game, even though it will continue to threaten to hold him until the trade deadline. At the same time, new GM Rob Hennigan has learned from some of the best, so he won’t be bullied and has to trust his gut with time on his side. CEO Alex Martins has expressed the desire not to have another year like the one the Magic just went through, but like Howard, didn’t help his team’s cause by having said that.
Houston went ahead and signed 2012 first-round picks Royce White and Terrence Jones, starting a 30-day clock before they can be moved in any deal. No. 12 pick Jeremy Lamb’s deal is imminent. 2011 pick Donatas Motiejunas is available on Aug. 5. At this point, the Rockets are settling in for lengthy negotiations if they opt to try and rent Howard or L.A.’s Andrew Bynum with the intent to keep one of them long-term.
Meanwhile, Howard, under contract with Orlando but still trying to get his way, is sabotaging a potential move to Houston. Despite the fact that the Rockets can get him and move him down the road in a worst-case scenario, he wants no part of them playing faciliator, which is really misguided.
The Rockets have the best package of assets that the Magic feel comfortable moving forward with, but since Howard has made it known he could always bolt to Dallas if Houston attempts to use his Bird Rights as a way to keep him, there’s little incentive for the Rockets to give Orlando anything close to what it wants.
Which is the opinion of random Houston guy. Mejia says, in the tweet and in the article, that Hennigan has time on his side.
He also says the clock is ticking, which it is. He doesn't have much time on his side because everyone now knows he HAS to trade him.
I'm sorry, but I don't buy that. He has crappy offers on the table now. If waiting doesn't yield better offers, he'll have crappy offers on the table later. The downside to waiting is that the crappy offers get a little crappier. The potential upside to waiting is that he gets a better offer.
At the very, very least there is virtually no downside to waiting this out until opening night.
For the upside, Orlando has no choice but to trade him. Everyone knows that, and Orlando loses leverage because of it. Once you know a team HAS to make a move, you lowball the out of them. Rockets' stance is "well he's a rental, so why should we bid against ourselves". It would be different if he camp didn't leak all this stuff out, and also would be different if he was in high demand, but he's not. Not many teams right now are willing to do a "Rental" with a full year, much less half a season. As for time, teams (let's say a mystery team pops up) that are willing to make the trade want more time to get Dwight in, acclumated, and make their sales pitch now instead of later. So if Orlando keeps ing around and lets time go by, offers will get tier as you say. And at some point, L.A. will sign Bynum to an extension, and Houston will just move on and rebuild. No one is waiting forever on this.
The Magic can always let him walk without taking back assets that they don't want...but around the trading deadline in February they might as well try to jettison the contracts of Turkoglu and Richardson as well.
Your advice to Orlando is apparently:
You're in a crappy situation. All of your current offers suck. If you wait, the offers may get even worse. So give up all hope of a better deal and lock in the best of the current crappy offers.
That may make sense to you, but not to me, and apparently not to Orlando.
Just send him to OKC for Perkins & Harden. If he wants to leave and wants the most money he can get then OKC can sign and trade him but convincing him to stay after playing with Durant and Westbrook should be easier. Would OKC do it, I would, they might not.
They should put him in the inactive list and noy play him. that dude
And that's fine. Just offers will get worse as time goes on because teams have other moves to make, and considerably worse at the deadline. As long as Orlando can't convince anyone of bidding against themselves for a "Rental", yeah that's exactly what will happen.
That's your opinion and that's fine. IMO, it's impossible for the offers to get considerably worse.
since we know they won't get any better..why keep a malcontent and cancer on your team...what they get for him now is better than letting him walk...that's the worse possible scenario for the Magic...trade him to the Rockets and let them deal with him walking...either way someone is going to get ed if he's not traded to one of his preferred destinations.
Orlando is in no position to call it's shots...that's the price you pay when dealing with a malcontent superstar...they got nothing for Shaq either remember and it set them back almost 10 yrs..surely they're not that foolish
We don't know that.
In fact, it's mostly just guesswork as to what the current offers are. With the exception of the previous Brooklyn offer built around Lopez and Humphries, it's all complete speculation.
Btw, have you looked up your team's payroll yet?
Haven't read the whole thread yet so not sure if someone mentioned it, but Denver waiting until the deadline to make a trade for Melo worked out very well, even though it was just as obvious he was leaving Denver. One recent example of patience succeeding.
Melo was firm in wanting out. Dwight flip flopped, is a drama queen, and created this situation himself. He sabotaged Orlando. Different situation.
Different stories, but now it's pretty obvious that Dwight is firm in leaving Orlando. Cases get much more similar now.
Not at all. Dwight's value is , and is becoming hated around the league. He opted in to keep his money and thinks Orlando owes it to him to trade him to his desired destination when all he had to do was opt out..
Also, Denver was dealing with Isiah, not even fair tbh......
Funny. Just not true.
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