Lebron would have drove past Bird easily..but Bird would have shot Lebron out of the gym....Bird didn't win on athleticism he won on smarts and skill...
not if you're playing teams no better than high school talent...get a grip dude...those ing international teams back then were ...the Dream Team didn't ing play nobody...all the played was offense NO defense what-so-ever because they didn't have to..wake up smell the![]()
Lebron would have drove past Bird easily..but Bird would have shot Lebron out of the gym....Bird didn't win on athleticism he won on smarts and skill...
wrong again you're trying to compare today's USA team with inferior talent from international teams in the 90's...to err is Indazone
It would be a toss-up..and if Dwight and Blake are playing instead of Tyson today's team win easily,
Dwight and Blake would cancel Malone and Barkley, Tyson and Ewing would then be even...
that leaves the Perimeter...Kobe Lebron vs MJ and Magic...I'm going with Kobe and Lebron..MJ and Kobe would cancel and Lebron would edge out Magic...![]()
Drazen Petrovic and Tony Kukoc high school talent
your basketball takes
probably not even born in '92
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Listen...a prime MJ and a Prime Kobe is better than a prime Lebron...listen I like some of your takes but you don't strike me as a person that "really" knows the game..
MJ and Kobe have the same killer mindset...Lebron simply does not posses it...a Prime MJ and Kobe would have cancelled each other..A prime MJ or Kobe would have destroyed Lebron...Lebron would be able to score but he wouldn't know how to defend against that type of talent that was incessant and fearless..MJ and Kobe both had way better low post games than Lebron, better mid-range than lebron and better outside shots than Lebron, were better defenders, and better winning instincts than Lebron...
MJ in particular would have tore Lebron a new asshole...Lebron even at this stage wouldn't be ready to deal with that kind of hawkish pressure and tenacity from MJ...again Bruce Bowen was the best on ball defender I've seen since Dennis Rodman (and Rodman was even better)..Remember what a prime Kobe did to Bruce Bowen...no way could Lebron stay in front of Kobe...too slow laterally...
Lebron will have the torch for only 1 more year before Durant takes it from him...but I'd giver him the slight edge over Durant but just barely...
like I said no better than high school talent...especially in the context of playing the dream team
Lebron copies everything Kobe does...
Kobe goes to Hakeem
Lebron goes to Hakeem
Kobe commits to team USA early
Lebron commits to team USA early
Kobe says we'd beat the dream team
Lebron says we'd beat the dream team
I guess Lebron wants to be like the best
Injuries is key..all things being equal..add our injured players Wade, Blake, and Dwight and it changes everything...
Kobe
Melo
Wade
Lebron
Durant
Dwight
Blake
CP3
D-Will
Westbrook
beats
MJ
Magic
Bird
Barkly
Malone
Ewing
Robinson
Stockton
Ok late 80's was hot but look at the classic albulms that dropped in the 90s: death certificate, midnight marauders, enter the 36, the infamous, illmatic, ready to die, reasonable doubt, Cuban linx, iron man, doggy style, southerplayistic, atliens, soul food, itz dark and is hot,
You a Laker "soldier", so ill be gentle, but you don't know more about ball than me. What does a prime Kobe have to do with this post? I love Kobe's game but he is past his prime. Sure he is still better than most of these made pseudo superstars. Kobe is one of those throwback 90s niccas. But on this 2012 team LeBron is the star. Kobe showed him how to close in 2008 now LeBron needs to show what he learned and so far I like what I see. I can't be like the Kobe haters that still hate even though Kobe rang twice sans Shaq. LeBron won finally so I hope he realizes his full potential.
no need to be defensive I was just asking a simple question tbh
There are so many more but doing this on a train on my Android ...90s s on every decade overall. Late 80's is probably second the early part of it was very mediocre.
Other 90's stars: gangstar, de la soul, tha liks, pharcyde, ras kas, dj quik, amg, brand Nubian, xclan, eminem, xzibit mos def I could go on Pac, Breed,
Great albums for sure, but I'll put Criminal Minded, Yo! Bum Rush the Show, Straight Outta Compton, Eazy Duz It (most underrated 80s hiphop album), Power, Rhyme Pays, Paid in Full, It Takes a Nation of Millions, Critical Beatdown, Strictly Business, 3 Feet High and Rising, As Nasty As They Wanna Be, The Great Adventures of Slick Rick, The Cactus Album, and Raising against any other era. If we're going to include a whole decade though, I'll put Run DMC's debut, The Furious Five's The Message, and the Fat Boys in the mix too. Oops, forgot Kool Moe Dee too. If you never heard it, look for the battle rap between him and Busy Bee; he just kills Busy Bee in some classic .
EDIT: Here it is, from 1981
Also, your 90s list is incomplete without Breaking Atoms (2nd best album of the decade behind Illmatic, and it has what is easily the greatest verse of Nas' career), The Low End Theory, Bow Down, and Curb Servin. Can't agree with Reasonable Doubt: I thought that album was grossly overrated outside of D'Evils (which is amazing). I also though AmeriKKKa's Most was Cube's best solo; his delivery worked really well with those loud Bomb Squad beats.
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everything I said was predicated on comments your previous post...
You kinda sound like every one that was enamored with Shaq's girth...Personally, I think The Dream Team would crush the soft middle of this 2012 team. But Lebron is a force that neither MJ nor Scottie has ever seen the likes of. So of course, Lebron should like his chances. The 2012 team is blessed with 4 of the best scorers of all time. Melo, Durant, Lebron and even Kobe at 30 plus are elite level scorers. In a best of 7 I think 2012 could win ONE game ...maybe. And primarily because Lebron just MAY BE that good.
No way MJ lets them win a series or more than a game though. I for one would LOVE to have seen a MJ/Lebron matchup. The ultimate closer against the most dominant pure athlete I have ever seen.
First off I think 2012 could win the series all things be equal on the injury front...but Lebron would not be the reason they won it would be because of 2012's ability (collectively) to get to the rim...Lebron would have been heat checked early and often...those vets from 92 would have shut him down to the point that all he would be doing is shooting 3's...he has the body to play in the 80's and 90's but he doesn't have the mindset...
MJ in his prime (and Kobe as well) for the reason's I've stated would have beat Lebron pretty handily...Lebron would be a tough cover but his lack of mid -range and low post excludes him from the debate of beating MJ or Kobe...his size alone wouldn't be enough...
as for dominance...Shaq was the most dominant ever but not the best...Duncan was actually better than Shaq but Shaq was mroe dominant...same concept with Lebron when comparing him with MJ and Kobe..he may be more dominant but not the best...
Had it not been for Kobe pressing Shaq to get in Duncan's ass the Spurs would have owned us in the early 2000's..
I remember once Shaq going to the sideline and complaining to Phil about some Duncan was doing..and Kobe went over said: "Man why don't you just slam his ass in the paint."
Shaq was another one who had the size but not the mentality...
Here's the Nas verse I was talking about from Breaking Atoms. Not only is it Nas' best, but it's possibly the greatest one ever put on wax.
It's easy to see why Sony put so much money into Illmatic after hearing this. The Nasty Nas mixtape is worth checking too.
if today's team get rid of the class-1 bag named kobe bryant then they probably have a chance to win. 92' team was more of a team with great chemistry and the teammates were all those whom jordan enjoyed playing with, while those others disliked by jordan were filtered out despite how good they were. barkley was easily a top5 player back then but he got snubbed, instead they selected the TOSB version larry bird, and magic johnson who had already retired from NBA prior to the olympics
you don't have such a #1 guy like jordan on today's team and even if you have one, it's surely NOT kobe bryant tbh. who the does the rapist think he is to say this?
http://espn.go.com/olympics/summer/2...eat-1992-dream
Jordan told The Associated Press he laughed when he heard of Bryant's comments.
"For him to compare those two teams is not one of the smarter things he ever could have done," Jordan said.
Lebron>Jordan
Yeah, and then Malone will choke on a .
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Keep drinkin the Koolaid...make yours grape. I'll give you International compe ion has improved since 92 but not 40 points improved. That was just a ridiculous dream team.
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