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The boat had a lot of innocent prison guards, operators, and ferrymen aside from just the convicts, fwiw...and you obviously do care to be constantly posting on this thread about it
Then you dont understand what a "scene" is.
A scene involves characters interacting.
Nolan might have cut back and forth between the two scenes, but I dont see how remembering the scene where the two ferries decide NOT to blow each other up implies I MUST remember the scene where batman "Save" the Joker.
I probably dont remember the batman/joker "saving" because the scene on the ferries was so absurd it overshadows anything else Nolan was trying to do. Nolan got overly preachy and created a moment where I actually said "this is ing stupid" in the theater. No parents with children would committ mass suicide rather than blow up a boat of convicts and vice verca.
Nolan got preachy and the third act was poorly done. I have no idea what anyone means by "Batman saving the Joker", nor do i care.
The boat had a lot of innocent prison guards, operators, and ferrymen aside from just the convicts, fwiw...and you obviously do care to be constantly posting on this thread about it
Nonsense. Each one of those characters and scenes was vital to ending the central conflict of the entire film.
What is the central conflict of "The Dark Knight"? I would say its "Batman and friends fight the Joker and organized crime".
So what does that have to do with Gordon's SON? How does Batman fighting Dent resolve the central conflict of the film? Where the 's the joker?
Oh, I know. Its just a stupid GIMMICK to try and create drama/suspense because the Harvey Dent 180 "heel turn" was so poorly done. A fight of batman versus harvey dent at the end is an incredible let down considering the villain of the film is, you know, THE JOKER. Plus, we had been watching Batman fight the Joker for two hours already so its incredibly foolish to throw together a batman/dent conflict in the span of twenty minutes and expect the audience to actually give a . So Nolan throws in a KID and has Harvey Dent become a potential child murderer to try and build suspense. And nolanites eat it up! You guys really are ing stupid.
So what happened to the Joker? He was saved by batman? Dont remember that. I sure as remember Jack Nicholson's joker falling to his death from the helicopter ladder and I havent seen that film in over a decade. Nicholson's face as his forearms lose strength and he falls step-by-step down the ladder is an extremely memorable ending. Compare that to HOWEVER the Joker and "scarecrow" respective conflicts were resolved. You could offer me a MILLION dollars and I couldnt tell you what happened to ScareCrow in "Batman Begins". I was actually surprised he had a cameo in "The Dark Knight".
"Oh...he didnt die in the first one?!!""
My exercise of having YOU explain these respective ending further showed my point. Nolan gets over-zealous and creates "second endings" where a new villain and conflict is introduced and each respective film suffers. Your descriptions of the endings include characters and conflicts that are thrown together at the end of the film that most people wont remember.
Again, I challenge to ask some people who have seen the film. How did the joker die/not-die. How did the scarecrow die/not-die. See if they remember.
They probably wont because Nolan's a ty writer.
That statement makes all this irrelevant tbh.
I don't get the whole "I don't remember that!" shtick either, do you have amnesia or something?
The vast majority of the public that are categorized as low functioning tend to have this problem.
Wow I never should've said batman saves joker...it's all this ing dude can talk about and he's taking it extremely out of context. It's not like the joker was being ambushed and the batman rescued him. He throws the joker off the building but instead of letting him hit the ground he let's him hang in midair allowing him to be arrested instead. This is when the joker tells him what he has done to dent.
And gordons son comes into the equation because dent blames Gordon for rachaels death and now he wants him to know the feeling of losing the person he loves the most. It's not like it was completely out of the blue just for s and giggles.
Saw it the second time
Bane owns. Freaking awesome character.
I should appreciate it more when I go see it a 2nd time
Pace is too fast in this movie; didnt have the time to fully enjoy it the 1st time
I think it should have been 30 minutes longer; Nolan must have been forced to cut a lot of minutes/scenes
She actually wants to FEEL a penis inside of her.
>her
>thinking CuckingFunt is a female
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>implying I know everyone's sex on ST
>implying I give a
but seriously, CF isn't female?
Funny you say that.
My chick was saying how at the beginning she was appreciating it more after seeing it once and knowing what was coming.
however she slept through the entire middle of the movie, and even weirder, the fat guy sitting next to her was asleep during the middle too. And this was during the day, not early.
I don't get the point of the little boy with an accent singing the national anthem
She was probably tired after getting shagged by Jamal and Tyson the night before
imho
Saw it a second time last night... as a superhero movie, it was great.
If we're going to hold it to the standard of the all-time great movies then it falls short.
Way too many characters to invest time into. Batman and Bane should've been the primary focus but instead we're also led to follow Officer Blake, the Commissioner, Miranda, Foley, and Catwoman and it really brings all the characters to a level where we know all of their motives but never enough to become emotionally invested. No one's fate comes off as having any kind of impact. None of the characters seem human. Everyone has a poetic vocabulary, all the time.
It also seems kind of awkward to make this a trilogy when there was never an overarching plot throughout all 3 movies. The first two movies were stand alone and then this third one attempted to pretend like there was something planned throughout all three.
Heath would've been in this movie for sure if he hadn't passed away. Nolan includes every single character from the previous movies so the Joker's absence is obvious.
I think it is one of the best movies of all time. I was emotionally invested in all the main characters. I don't consider Foley to be a main character. He is basically just used as a tool, but I understand why Nolan had him in there.
i saw tdkr on the biggest imax screen in the world.
pretty cool, but i missed a chunk of the action sequences just because of the shear size of the screen.
97 feet tall and 115 ft wide.
the only thing i dont like about the movie is that everyone should have died from radiation at the end.
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I dunno... I wasn't at all. Batman took the bomb and I didn't really care like I did in similar instances in better movies. I never thought for one second he would die considering Wayne and Fox mentioned the auto-pilot every time they spoke to one another.
Foley wasn't a main character... but for some reason Nolan wanted us to care about him. He was a bigger character than you think in regards to his screen time and yet we gave no s when he died.
Blake was a good dynamic character but none of the other characters evolved during this movie. Maybe when Batman decided to not use the rope....? They didn't have enough time.
Reduce the commissioner's screen time greatly since we've had to focus on his stagnent character for three movies with no dynamic revelation and delete Miranda's and Foley's character and we get to use that extra time for Batman, Blake, and Bane.
What was Bane's motive anyways?
I thought it was easily the worst movie of the three after seeing it twice now.
I think a lot of people "think" they watched a great movie because they want it to be great.
I had been waiting for Prometheus for over a year and when it came out I was in denial that it was good. I wanted it to be a masterpiece and invoke existential thought... but it just ended up being a collection of jumbled ideas and bad writing. Same with TDKR. It was just an unpolished collection of characters written badly. My sentiments for Prometheus and TDKR are nearly identical and it sucks because I was so sure both movies would deliver.
same motive as the league of shadows in the first movie. he was there to help talia as her personal protector.
mostly all characters in the movie evolved in some way.
Are you guys 13 years old?
Are you a fat, middle-aged Mexican who wants to be a rockstar?
A little late for attempted insults considering we're at 576 posts. I don't think you have a chance at hurting anyone's feelings as the forum punching bag.
Cartoons.
Grow up already.
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