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    Marie is cool, though.

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    Marie got nice iies

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    I feel like the writers are creating a lot of moving parts leading up to the obvious conclusion foreshadowed in episode 1 of this season. Started to feel a twinge of disappointment and boredom with the show.

    They better have some surprises up their sleeves, for if this season is all about some moralistic finale in which Walt gets his comeuppance, I think they will have betrayed the originality and daring that the series has become known for.
    Have you even been watching the show? Mexican Don: arrogant, greases Gus's partner, gets his comeuppance. Gus: arrogant, rubs old man's nose in killing the Don and the rest of his relatives, gets his comeuppance.

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    Marie is cool, though.
    Marie is a loudmouth , just in a different way from Skyler.

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    Marie is a loudmouth , but she's generally likable..

    Skylar is y, a hypocrite, a drama queen, and very unlikable IMO..

    I understand many fans have developed a dislike for Walt, but his intentions towards his family have remained consistent..IRL I would imagine that most men in Walt's position, with an enlarged ego and financial success, would either leave their ungrateful wife for a penis pleaser, or at the very least, assume alpha position..fortunately, it appears that Walt is finally achieving alpha status..

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    Marie stood up for Walt during that family meeting, so she will always get my respect.

    Hank treating her like for no reason was messed up.

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    This show ing rules. Magnets .

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    something that's was once again brought up was how drug money was used to facilitate hank's recovery, which means he's even more ed if walt gets caught

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    bye bye aztek

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    The perfect birthday gift for the man without much time: a watch.

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    Oh, and timeline update. The show started with his 50th birthday. He just "celebrated" his 51st. At the diner in the flash forward, he made his bacon into a 52, likely also his birthday. As much time will elapse between when we get to that time as from the beginning of the show to now.

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    Well it could also be Walt's own wishful thinking-- hoping that he lives past the ordeal necessitating the big gun and makes it to his 52nd.

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    Well it could also be Walt's own wishful thinking-- hoping that he lives past the ordeal necessitating the big gun and makes it to his 52nd.
    He used the bacon for 50. Likely, the 52 is for his birthday.

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    Skyler with the "I thought you were the danger," "waiting for the cancer to come back" one-two punch. Will Walt be able to recover, or will he still keep pretending that everything is okay in their relationship?

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    skyler needs to just ing die already

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    I've only watched to season 4 but I hate the re ed kid. I just forward through all the mom/son . I watch the Jesse/Walt, Gus/Hank all that stuff though. I decided early that I don't care about the family unit but the little girl is a doll.

    The 1st 4 seasons were basically:

    Jesse s up

    Walt gets injured and distances himself more from the fam as he bails Jesse out

    Jesse s up

    Walt bails them out

    Jesse s up

    Walt bails them out

    Jesse s up

    Walt bails them out

    etc, ad nauseum. i was hoping Jesse would get popped early in the 2nd season. I have no love for the guy. It's not because he's a dip or that he's a meth head, but he's just uninteresting. There's really nothing about him that's developed enough to make him anything but a tool for Walt's genius heroism. Jesse is completely useless.

    The wife suddenly became a savvy genius suddenly with the gambling story, while just a couple episodes earlier she was ing her stupid, scamming boss as if she had absolutely zero sense.

    The show is good only because of the drug gang, Hank and Walt. I liked Gus, but he jumped the shark already.

    The Hank/Walt thing is very Dexteresque. It's almost deus ex machina at times.
    Last edited by DMC; 08-05-2012 at 11:54 PM.

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    AMC does weird with their shows, sometimes. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they DID split it into two seasons, even, or otherwise.

    OK, on to this episode:

    1) Walt is a ing idiot, and an egomaniac, to boot. When your DEA bro-in-law is about to give up on his quasi investigation, you don't give him ammo to continue, just because he thinks someone else (Gale) is responsible for your primo product.

    2) I still think Gus and Mike are setting up Jesse. The life of one of Gus's couriers is a very dangerous one, and that would be the perfect way to kill him without actually "killing" him. Just put him in the back of one of the chicken batter/Meth delivery trucks, and let the cartel do the rest.

    3) I think Gus is done. With Hank finding the Pollos Hermanos t-shirt at the scene of the murder of Gale the vegan, I think the jig is up.
    I realize this is old, but I want to respond:

    It was established early on that Walt feels he was cheated out of his mental property by the millionaire guy that used to be his partner. He's very much a purist when it comes to chemistry (and just about anything else he does). He's like a lot of us that cannot tolerate the generic approach to life that people like Jesse take. He likes the hoopla surrounding his "product". He also runs his mouth when he's drunk or drugged, as we've seen at least 3 times (the "which one" comment, the near confession about letting that chick choke and coaxing Hank into not giving credit to Gale) so it's no surprise that he would say when he's drunk. Look for that as a lever for keeping things going in upcoming seasons. It's a writers' tool.

    I never felt that Gus was trying to kill either of these guys except when it became obvious that Walt was a problem and was too jittery to trust. Gus did make it obvious after that that he was going to try to off someone. I didn't think the courier thing was it. Gus is so connected he could have them die "accidentally" anywhere. I felt the writers strayed from the character of Gus eventually, making him super human at times and a bad ass chessmaster of a drug lord, but then he keeps people like Jesse alive when he didn't need to. He gets all these irons in the fire at the same time and suddenly he's compromised. Someone with his history would not allow that many loose ends, and it seemed at times he was acting out of compassion when he made it clear he doesn't think that way at all.

    Good call on Gus, though there wasn't much left to do. The cat and mouse thing ran its course. Gus got his revenge, he had nothing left. Hank is just there to provide suspense, they had to cripple him to keep him viable for the story, though it's funny that the writers made the rest of the DEA total re s who never learn "yeah we know you were right the last 10 times and you killed all these bad guys single handed, but your story sounds far fetched, let's grab a beer". I guess developing other people would require more time so just make them paper dolls with carbon copy intellects.

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    etc, ad nauseum. i was hoping Jesse would get popped early in the 2nd season. I have no love for the guy. It's not because he's a dip or that he's a meth head, but he's just uninteresting. There's really nothing about him that's developed enough to make him anything but a tool for Walt's genius heroism. Jesse is completely useless.
    Um... I'm not sure you're watching the same show I've been watching.

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    Terrible writing this season. I was fast-forwarding thru the talk-tastic, predictable cardboard drama.
    BB has officially jumped the shark.

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    ing love this show, although it feels like we're waiting to meet more of the Germans

    Pushing against the Aztek was

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    Not a solid episode, but I want to slap the out of Skylar. She's one of my least favorite characters and the writers are doing a good job of keeping it that way.

    With Hank moving on with his promotion, will the investigation stop?

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    Not a solid episode, but I want to slap the out of Skylar. She's one of my least favorite characters and the writers are doing a good job of keeping it that way.

    With Hank moving on with his promotion, will the investigation stop?
    AMC: making America hate wives (Betty Draper, Lori Grimes, Skylar White) since 2007

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    Crofl, DMC which Jesse have you been watching?
    He has evolved every season, grown as a person every step of the way.
    It's like you only watched season 1, then stopped paying attention.

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    Crofl, DMC which Jesse have you been watching?
    He has evolved every season, grown as a person every step of the way.
    It's like you only watched season 1, then stopped paying attention.
    Not to mention the idea of Walt ever displaying "genius heroism."

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    I like the contrast of how Walt said how things have been hectic in just a year as it played both to the past events and alludes to the future, which, was set forth at the beginning of the season with the Denny's breakfast and the 52 with the bacon. It woud be a disservice to the show if you didn't applaud how Jesse has now become the consciable one in regards to the Jesse, Walt and Mike triumvirate. Far removed from the once jittery meth addict quick-to-irrationality character of seasons past. Didn't like how the Walt/Skyler bday thing progress as it played out a little whimper and didn't really maintain anything necessary but the already shift in their disasterous existence.

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