chick fil a appreciation day!

[LnGrrrR]

1.) Not really, there is no real evidence of it being genetic.
2.) Yes, that was the point of trying to provide a better analogy rather than the standard blacks = gays analogy.

I'd say that even if it's not "genetic" doesn't really make it a choice.

Second, even if it were a choice (which is a crappy word for this discussion to be honest... one doesn't necessarily "choose" to become religious, or to like a certain person, etc etc... choose implies "donuts or bagel this morning")... that still wouldn't mean it was a-ok to discriminate against them.

[SnakeBoy]

Lack of evidence isn't indisputable proof.

Somehow how doubt you would be making that argument if this were a thread on the existence of God.

I'd say that even if it's not "genetic" doesn't really make it a choice.

Second, even if it were a choice (which is a crappy word for this discussion to be honest... one doesn't necessarily "choose" to become religious, or to like a certain person, etc etc... choose implies "donuts or bagel this morning")... that still wouldn't mean it was a-ok to discriminate against them.

That's why I used "behaviour/choice", maybe lifestyle is a better term.

I'm not making any argument that is ok to discriminate against them. I don't oppose same sex marriage. At the same time I always find same sex marriage threads amusing because posters who normally try to make logical arguments automatically throw that out the window and start making claims they can't prove or just screaming "Hatred" or "Oppression" towards anyone who disagrees with them.


Just for the sake of discussion. Why do we have marriage and give special rights/advantage to married couples? Do married couples provide greater benefit to society that is deserving of special treatment and will same sex couples provide that same benefit?

[Yonivore]

Anybody know how the "Kiss-in" is going?

[Yonivore]

Libs get their turn.

No surprise here.

ing cows!

[vy65]

I don't know that it is. This issue is just the one getting media attention everywhere. Recently, Major League Soccer ending their relationship with the Boy Scouts due to their views. Thats a pretty damn big decision to make and I didn't see any attention given to it outside the soccer community. Then again Chic Fil A might be a bigger company. I really have no idea. I guess my point is the Boy Scounts aren't being ignored.

Fair point. And determining how "big a deal" something is will tend to be pretty subjective.

My point is that there aren't any kiss in's at Troop meetings, which is weird because the BSA rank higher on the oppress-o-scale than chick fil a

[ElNono]

Somehow how doubt you would be making that argument if this were a thread on the existence of God.

Why would I? I never claimed there's indisputable proof that god exist/doesn't exist. My opinion on the matter is a completely different story, but that's debatable, and we've debated it many times.

That's why I used "behaviour/choice", maybe lifestyle is a better term.

Another debatable term. I'm heterosexual and I don't recall waking up one morning and making a conscious choice "I'm gonna find women attractive and bang them". Maybe you did.

Just for the sake of discussion. Why do we have marriage and give special rights/advantage to married couples? Do married couples provide greater benefit to society that is deserving of special treatment and will same sex couples provide that same benefit?

I would argue that the onus of proving that the benefits won't be there on same sex couples is on the people that want the discrimination to continue.

[ElNono]

Oops, just noticed the last paragraph wasn't directed at me... but there you go, you get my opinion on those too.

[CosmicCowboy]

Anybody know how the "Kiss-in" is going?

I gotta say, it's the first time I've ever popped wood eating waffle fries.

[Blake]

Do married couples provide greater benefit to society that is deserving of special treatment and will same sex couples provide that same benefit?

whatever benefit that might be, I don't see why they wouldn't provide the same.

Do you?

[ChumpDumper]

Anybody know how the "Kiss-in" is going?

Of course yoni would want to know about guys kissing each other.

[TeyshaBlue]

I'm heterosexual and I don't recall waking up one morning and making a conscious choice "I'm gonna find women attractive and bang them".

WTF is wrong with you? I make this choice everytime I wake up!

[Wild Cobra]

WTF is wrong with you? I make this choice everytime I wake up!

LOL....

No !

[CosmicCowboy]

whatever benefit that might be, I don't see why they wouldn't provide the same.

Do you?

Are you kidding? The folks in conventional marriages are breeding children to pay off the debts created by us baby boomers! Those fudge packers don't make taxpayers no matter how hard they try.

[TE]

WTF is wrong with you? I make this choice everytime I wake up!

[Trainwreck2100]

WTF is wrong with you? I make this choice everytime I wake up!

my body makes that decision before i wake up, makes that morning piss difficult as

[ElNono]

WTF is wrong with you? I make this choice everytime I wake up!

Married, IMO

[TeyshaBlue]

Married, IMO

[LnGrrrR]

Why do we have marriage and give special rights/advantage to married couples? Do married couples provide greater benefit to society that is deserving of special treatment and will same sex couples provide that same benefit?

Do you mean why DID they come about, or why do we have them now? And are you talking about it from a logical perspective, or a realpolitik viewpoint?

[CuckingFunt]

That's the real irony.

The employer is not required to provide insurance at all. If he cancels it for everyone then it's no harm / no foul.

If he gives it to his opposite sex couples but doesn't provide it to same sex couples he is discriminating against the same sex couples freedom of choice...but by forcing him to pay for their insurance they are discriminating against the business owners freedom of choice.

Your hypothetical suggests that discrimination against the sexual employee based on their iden y is analogous to discrimination against the employer based on a choice he/she has made.

Crazy stuff.

Indeed.

[CuckingFunt]

They don't pay maternity for breeders.

Ignoring the bat stupidity of the above comment...

Breeder =/= straight, anymore.

[Blake]

Are you kidding? The folks in conventional marriages are breeding children to pay off the debts created by us baby boomers! Those fudge packers don't make taxpayers no matter how hard they try.

I can't tell if you're kidding.

[ElNono]

Chick-fil-A's PR chief dies suddenly amid gay-marriage imbroglio

[ElNono]

^ wonder how crookskans is gonna spin that one

[Wild Cobra]

Who killed him I wonder?

[Jacob1983]

This whole so-called controversy has become a joke. The boss of ty Chick Fil A gave an opinion of marriage in some interview and people want to make a in federal case about it and have a war over it. This is just sad and pathetic. You've got neo-cons ing about freedom of speech and hippie gay liberals ing about Chick Fil A supposedly hating gay people want to kill wipe them off the planet.


People over stupid . Why not use all of this wasted energy, enthusiasm, and effort and go do something that will actually help people like volunteer at a hospital, library, veterans hospital, church, homeless shelter, etc...? Helping the sick, hungry, wounded, and less fortunate is far more important than ing over Chick Fil A. However, no one will do that because if they did that, then they would have to actual hard work which benefit someone else and nope that can't happen so it's basically a big you to starving kids, homeless bums, and wounded veterans. They get shat on because everyone wants to participate in a pathetic lynch mob mentality.