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    I dunno...the stock opened really strong making it look like the underwriters underestimated demand. They decided to offer more stock and it got snapped up by willing buyers. I don't see the foul here. It looks to me like it was the debacle at Facebook that infected Zynga stock, not malfeasance on Zynga's part.
    But these same executives were touting how well the company was doing, only to show a month later (after they dumped their stock options) the company was actually sucking. At least that's what the lawsuit alleges.

    Do you guys understand that when stock options vest they immediately owe taxes on it even if they don't sell, right? If they don't have the cash they HAVE to sell some stock to satisfy uncle sam.
    The stock didn't vest until May. They sought (and received - executives only) a waiver to sell earlier. I doubt they dumped half a billion dollars in stock out of mere tax concerns.

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    Unlike you, I woke up this morning and made a conscious decision to like women and bang chicks. I been busy, boy.

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    sell out b4 making annual announcement...i see...typical racket

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    sell out b4 making annual announcement...i see...typical racket
    Am I to understand that, that by extension of your logic, insiders can never sell? After all, there are quarterly reports...

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    Am I to understand that, that by extension of your logic, insiders can never sell? After all, there are quarterly reports...
    You didn't follow his logic well.... at all.

    Employees are "insiders" too, and they were not allowed to sell until after the quarterly report.

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    You didn't follow his logic well.... at all.

    Employees are "insiders" too, and they were not allowed to sell until after the quarterly report.
    Riddle me this.

    How many stocks from the IPO offering that the insiders bought during the offering did the insiders sell before the end of quarter?

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    Riddle me this.

    How many stocks from the IPO offering that the insiders bought during the offering did the insiders sell before the end of quarter?
    What does that matter? They dumped the secondary offering stocks they received for $12 a pop and made upwards of $500 million under a special arrangement they made with the underwriters, that allowed only the executives to cash in a month before the quarterly results, while every other "insider" or not was forbidden to do so. When the quarterly report came in, turns out the company was hurting and the stock was worth only $3 a pop.

    The underwriters got paid $15 million in fees for the secondary offering + granted 6+ million shares of stock.

    Was there any wrongdoing? We'll find out. But sure as looks like some people were desperately trying to cash out before the quarterly report.

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    What does that matter? They dumped the secondary offering stocks they received for $12 a pop and made upwards of $500 million under a special arrangement they made with the underwriters, that allowed only the executives to cash in a month before the quarterly results, while every other "insider" or not was forbidden to do so. When the quarterly report came in, turns out the company was hurting and the stock was worth only $3 a pop.

    The underwriters got paid $15 million in fees for the secondary offering + granted 6+ million shares of stock.

    Was there any wrongdoing? We'll find out. But sure as looks like some people were desperately trying to cash out before the quarterly report.
    It matters because its a different set of rules, your you try to make it out as if they have to follow the same waiting period.

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    Another thing.

    Who got hurt?

    The stock would have likely dropped anyway. IPO's very often take a dive. It's not unusual. An IPO is a high risk investment.

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    It matters because its a different set of rules, your you try to make it out as if they have to follow the same waiting period.
    They originally had the same exact waiting period, executives and non executives. The requirement was waived by the underwriters under the secondary offering.

    Another thing.

    Who got hurt?

    The stock would have likely dropped anyway. IPO's very often take a dive. It's not unusual. An IPO is a high risk investment.
    But that's the point, dumbass. They were allowed to cash out before the stock sunk. The other "insiders" or public were left with semi-worthless paper.

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    They originally had the same exact waiting period, executives and non executives. The requirement was waived by the underwriters under the secondary offering.
    So?

    It still doesn't clear you of bring to this forum a linked story that assumes the worse and spins the worse, for the lemming lib masses to consume.

    I thought you were better than that. Sorry for my mistake.

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    It still doesn't clear you of bring to this forum a linked story that assumes the worse and spins the worse, for the lemming lib masses to consume.

    I thought you were better than that. Sorry for my mistake.
    What is "assumed and spin" on the story?

    Yes, you're mistaken a lot lately.

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    What is "assumed and spin" on the story?

    Yes, you're mistaken a lot lately.
    You need to learn to read between the lines.

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    You need to learn to read between the lines.
    So it's all in your head

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    So it's all in your head
    No, in yours.

    You were towing the line, not me. I mentioned the read between the lines to point out you need to understand the difference between what is true and not by parsing what is written. Point is, you ran hook line and sinker with the "fishy" crap. You didn't verify. This is what was intended for the reader to glean between the lines without them lying. You need to go at least two steps farther. What is factually said, and to verify what is implied. They let their lemming readers like you, read between the lines what is implied, and let you do the slander rather than them.
    I just can't think everything is cozy with this... reeks of insider trading... you can't tell me they didn't know how the company was performing...
    You already made up your mind.

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    What is "assumed and spin" on the story?

    Yes, you're mistaken a lot lately.

    You already made up your mind.
    lol chastising anybody for having an opinion
    lol authoritarian

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    A point some of you are not addressing is the fact that the investors that had the heads up on the stock going down could have easily warned others but they kept it a secret. I'm sure if all of us bought SpursTalk stocks at 20 dollars a share and found out it was worth only 2.00 dollars a share and only posters with 5,000 post count were notified a month in advanced some of you would be pissed.

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    I sold Spurstalk at 22 .

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