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    God help the team that trades for choo-choo...he's the quintessential spurs-system guy who would toil in obscurity on any other team--much like Danny Green.
    Probably right. Hopefully the Spurs can dupe some team into thinking he's a short version of Ray Allen.

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    Not a big on magic roster I really like that we can afford - a trade of Bonnet,Blair,Joseph,Neal,Byars for Harper and Big Baby would work salary wise I think

    Spurs were rumored to like Davis at one time, of course would leave Spurs filling out a few roster spots for minimum salary guys and even then I think they would not be able to avoid lux tax which appears to be a goal for FO

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    It's not Neal's fault he was not playing his position most of the time. Ford's injury put us in a bind. I agree that his downside is his defense, which is a concern. I hope the rumors about Jacque pan out. I think Blair is going to be shipped out and we need a backup not named Bonner on the team for Diaw. I'm pretty hopeful that training camp and a full year in the system will help Diaw and Danny get better adjusted to our system. We need a big more than Neal imo.

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    It's not Neal's fault he was not playing his position most of the time. Ford's injury put us in a bind. I agree that his downside is his defense, which is a concern. I hope the rumors about Jacque pan out. I think Blair is going to be shipped out and we need a backup not named Bonner on the team for Diaw. I'm pretty hopeful that training camp and a full year in the system will help Diaw and Danny get better adjusted to our system. We need a big more than Neal imo.
    Agreed - like Neal a lot despite the Thunder series, but he is the most likely piece to be involved if Spurs elect to trade for a big

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    It's not Neal's fault he was not playing his position most of the time. Ford's injury put us in a bind. I agree that his downside is his defense, which is a concern. I hope the rumors about Jacque pan out. I think Blair is going to be shipped out and we need a backup not named Bonner on the team for Diaw. I'm pretty hopeful that training camp and a full year in the system will help Diaw and Danny get better adjusted to our system. We need a big more than Neal imo.
    Gary Neal is a good shooter but his defense is so atrocious that he can become a major liability especially going against legit SGs. I would be really surprised to see him stay a Spur for much longer especially with all the guards now on the roster.

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    Gary Neal is a good shooter but his defense is so atrocious that he can become a major liability especially going against legit SGs. I would be really surprised to see him stay a Spur for much longer especially with all the guards now on the roster.
    I think you are probably right. I wonder if playing PG didn't make his d look even worse. Guy's got heart and they really had high hopes for him.

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    The only big of the Magic team I see the Spurs could be interested in is Ayon...decent size, runs well and, more than anything else, is mexican.
    In few words, he gives us exactly the skills that are lacking in our big department (nationality included).
    Could became a fan favourite in a moment.
    The only problem, as of now, is that he can't be traded in combination with another player and we don't have a contract worth trading that makes the same numbers.
    But the restriction expires september 11.
    After that day we can send for him a package of Neal + Byars contract (that considering actual value is a decent trade) or, if our F.O. really value Ayon a lot and is ready to overpay for him, a package of Neal + Blair.
    The numbers match and the trade could be successful and logical for both teams.

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    Sorry, I re-viosited the trade restricion on nba trade machine.
    Ayon can already could be traded by himself for a combination of players.
    He just can't be traded in combination with another player of his own team.

    So, in this very minute, Ayon for neal + Byars or Neal + Blair is possible...

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    I'm not sure that you can get Ayon that easily. The Magic S&T'd Ryan Anderson to get him. I know that Orlando was not willing to keep Anderson at the price he was signed for and they could have lost him without getting anything in return, but you would think that a young productive big like him could net you more than a player like Ayon who has barely any room for growth.

    I do like Ayon's game quite a bit. He is fairly athletic, plays hard and can hit an open jumper. I'm not sure if he has the footspeed to keep up with PFs and defend the pick and roll consistently but it's a good sign that he played quite a lot for Monty Williams who's known to be quite demanding on his players when it comes to defense.

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    The point is that the Magic team, considering as a fact that Howard is gonna be traded, is probably becoming a re-building team.
    It just depends what kind of trade they're gonna get for Howard.
    If they trade him for young players or draft picks they're probably going to trade other veteran assets (Davis, Nelson, Richardson, Turkoglu and Ayon) for younger players.
    Imho the choice of Voughn as a coach points in that direction (don't think that they will have the chance to obtain Bynum...).

    If Voughn is effectively interested in Neal, having one (Neal) or two (Neal plus Blair) younger players with clear nba value and both well known by him could be considerd a more than fair trade.

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    Gary Neal is a good shooter but his defense is so atrocious that he can become a major liability especially going against legit SGs. I would be really surprised to see him stay a Spur for much longer especially with all the guards now on the roster.
    There's no excuse for getting outplayed by the fossil that is Derek Fisher.

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    Sorry, I re-viosited the trade restricion on nba trade machine.
    Ayon can already could be traded by himself for a combination of players.
    He just can't be traded in combination with another player of his own team.

    So, in this very minute, Ayon for neal + Byars or Neal + Blair is possible...
    Random re Ayon -- Interesting thing about his deal (per Sham) is that each successive year of his 3-year deal is fully unguaranteed. It looks like he had to be waived by July 25, 2012 for the Magic not to have to pay him. Same goes for next year.

    I like the guy. Plays with heart. He is in the mold of his countryman Najara, and has decent talent to play in the NBA.

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    Mills' Olympic play doesnt help Gary. Gary's compe ive edge is that he hits shots in pressure situations. Patty is doing that and more by carrying his team.

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