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    A 40-year-old Army veteran who gunned down six inside a Milwaukee-area Sikh temple shot the responding officer eight to nine times before he was killed by police, authorities said Monday.

    Officials said the gunman, whom they identified as Wade Michael Page, walked into the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin on Sunday and opened fire with a 9mm handgun as several dozen people prepared for morning services. The victims ranged in age from 39 to 84, authorities said. Three others were wounded, including 51-year-old veteran police officer Brian Murphy, who remains in critical condition.

    Authorities said during a Monday press conference that there is no reason to believe anyone other than Page was involved in the shooting in the Milwaukee suburb of Oak Creek. But the FBI showed a photo of a "person of interest" whom they want to question in the investigation. The unidentified man showed up at the scene after the shooting and looked "su ious," Oak Creek Police Chief John Edwards said. The man left before police could interview him.

    FBI Special Agent in Charge, Teresa Carlson, said a motive is still under investigation, and noted that authorities are looking at Page's "ties to white supremacist groups."

    Carlson said the shooting is being investigated as a "possible act of terrorism." She said the suspect "had contact with law enforcement in the past," but said there was no reason to believe he was capable of such violence.

    "Nobody knew that this guy was a threat," Carlson said.

    Edwards said police received a distress call at 10:25 a.m. from inside the temple. He said the shooting suspect ambushed and opened fire on Murphy, a 20-year veteran of the police force, after he showed up on scene and tried to help a victim outside. Murphy was shot by the suspect eight to nine times, Edwards said.

    Other officers responding to the scene exchanged rounds of gunfire with the suspect before "putting the individual down," Edwards said.

    Four people were found dead inside the temple, while three, including the suspected shooter, were found dead outside. The victims were described as five males and one female, ranging in age from 39 to 84.

    Sources close to the investigation told Fox News that Page was at one time attached to the Fort Bragg Army installation in North Carolina.

    Authorities said Page enlisted in April 1992 and was discharged from the Army in 1998 "under honorable conditions," which is less than honorable discharge. While not as negative as a dishonorable discharge, such a release would preclude one from reenlisting or entering another military service, sources explained to Fox News. Reuters reported that the discharge was for "patterns of misconduct," including being drunk on duty.

    Page served at Fort Bliss, Texas, in the psychological operations unit in 1994, and was last stationed at Fort Bragg, N.C., attached to the psychological operations unit. He was an E4 psychological operations specialist, but was never deployed. He was awarded the Army Commendation Medal, Army Achievement Medal, Army Good Conduct award, the National Defense Service Medal, Humanitarian Service Medal and Parachutist Badge.

    The shooting left the local Sikh community devastated. Sikhism, a monotheistic faith founded in South Asia more than 500 years ago, has roughly 27 million folowers worldwide. Most are in India, though there are an estimated 500,000 in the U.S. Many Sikhs in the U.S. worship on Sundays at a temple, or gurdwara, and a typical service consists of meditation and singing in a prayer room where worshippers remove their shoes and sit on the floor. Worshippers gather afterward for a meal that is open to the entire community.

    The Sikh Temple of Wisconsin started in 1997 with about 25 families who gathered in community halls in Milwaukee. Construction on the current temple in Oak Creek began in 2006, according to the temple's website. Sikh rights groups have reported a rise in bias attacks since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. The Washington-based Sikh Coalition has reported more than 700 incidents in the U.S. since 9/11, which advocates blame on anti-Islamic sentiment. Sikhs are not Muslims, but their long beards and turbans often cause them to be mistaken for Muslims, advocates say.

    Satwant Kaleka, president of the temple, was one of those shot. Sources told Fox News he attempted to tackle the suspect as he sprayed gunfire inside the temple.

    A woman who says she was a neighbor of the suspect tells FoxNews.com that last week she heard yelling coming from the apartment she believes is the same one the FBI is now searching.

    The neighbor says, as she understood it, the suspect had lived in the apartment with his girlfriend until their recent break-up. The suspect had then moved into another apartment nearby two weeks ago. She says he had returned to the old apartment and was banging on the door of his old apartment, demanding to be let in. The neighbor also said she believed the suspect had a 9-11 tattoo.

    Another local resident Kurt Weins told the Journal Sentinel he rented out the upper flat of the duplex to a man in his 40s.

    "I had him checked out and he definitely checked out," Weins told the newspaper. "The cops told me they don't want me to say nothing right now."



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    we all know that some lunatic on the left will make a comment trying to tie the alleged shooter to a tea party/ right wing group...

    Then the yoni's and Fox news' of the world will then blame the enitre left wing of the country for politicizing the matter... for one person's comments..

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    Maybe the shooter doesn't have any direct ties to a right wing group, but the shooting was more than likely fueled by the right's mission to demonize Islamic people.

    Maybe I'm "politicizing" the shooting by saying that, but violence against Sikh people by morons who think they're Arabs has been a common occurence since 9/11. There's no way around that.

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    sikh, muslim........just an event where yoni would holster his weapon.

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    Then the yoni's and Fox news' of the world will then blame the enitre left wing of the country for politicizing the matter... for one person's comments..
    That really depends on a couple of things; 1) from how high up the liberal food chain the "one person's comments" originate and 2) how long the liberal press plays up the possibility there's a connection -- or, just outright asserts it.

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    Maybe the shooter doesn't have any direct ties to a right wing group, but the shooting was more than likely fueled by the right's mission to demonize Islamic people.

    Maybe I'm "politicizing" the shooting by saying that, but violence against Sikh people by morons who think they're Arabs has been a common occurence since 9/11. There's no way around that.
    DUNCANownsKOBE isn't high enough on the food chain, for example.

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    Maybe the shooter doesn't have any direct ties to a right wing group, but the shooting was more than likely fueled by the right's mission to demonize Islamic people.

    Maybe I'm "politicizing" the shooting by saying that, but violence against Sikh people by morons who think they're Arabs has been a common occurence since 9/11. There's no way around that.

    you're not being politically correct...

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    DUNCANownsKOBE isn't high enough on the food chain, for example.
    I have faith that by the end of the day you will be playing the victim..

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    George, if you are trying to be politically neutral with this story, I would like to make a suggestion. Don't single a ST person on your right without singling out a ST person on the left. It would be nice not to at all. Same goes with a media outlet. You name fox, name NBC or huffington. Hopefully this a new beginning, not trolling which has been your lefty agenda since joining up here and good for you if you are changing your ways. God bless

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    George, if you are trying to be politically neutral with this story, I would like to make a suggestion. Don't single a ST person on your right without singling out a ST person on the left. It would be nice not to at all. Same goes with a media outlet. You name fox, name NBC or huffington. Hopefully this a new beginning, not trolling which has been your lefty agenda since joining up here and good for you if you are changing your ways. God bless
    you have dumbed down ST since you have been here..


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    I have faith that by the end of the day you will be playing the victim..
    Then you must have faith the liberal left won't be able to resist the urge to pin this on the Tea Party and/or other Conservatives.

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    you have dumbed down ST since you have been here..


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    Brother, this is a deflection. I honestly thought you were trying to be neutral with your left wing politics. I have never seen that from you. I've seen you troll people in to thinking you were a McCain over Obama guy until a woman stepped in. We know how funny those days were, are and how you dislike woman in authority. Maybe you are trying to change. Ill pray for you and your family you do change your ways. God bless

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    jack takes the internets too seriously. I will pray that he finds better uses of his time and quits abandoning his work and family duties rather than whining and praying about the fairness of GGA's posts.

    Ron bless.

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    jack takes the internets too seriously. I will pray that he finds better uses of his time and quits abandoning his work and family duties rather than whining and praying about the fairness of GGA's posts.

    Ron bless.
    Sister, this is a deflection


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    Then you must have faith the liberal left won't be able to resist the urge to pin this on the Tea Party and/or other Conservatives.
    Given the vast expanse of waste that is the internet and 24-hour cable news, I have no doubt at all that there will be discussion of possible Tea Party / Conservative fault and that there will be 10x as much whining about it.

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    He's obviously been brainwashed by the government. I bet there were multiple chemtrails in the skies over Milwaukee that day.

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    Given the vast expanse of waste that is the internet and 24-hour cable news, I have no doubt at all that there will be discussion of possible Tea Party / Conservative fault and that there will be 10x as much whining about it.
    Again, it depends on who's advancing the narrative.

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    He's obviously been brainwashed by the government. I bet there were multiple chemtrails in the skies over Milwaukee that day.
    The drones got to him


    Anywho, it's odd that after every tragedy like this one, you see right wingers immediately come out with a defensive at ude and say, "Anyone who tries to politicize this and blame the GOP is a horrible person!"

    Wreeks of a guilty conscience.

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    Pat Robertson Blames Sikh Temple Shooting on Atheists


    Today on the 700 Club, Pat Robertson said that “Satanic” atheists were to blame for the shooting at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin. Robertson claimed that “people who are atheists, they hate God, they hate the expression of God,” and are responsible for the massacre, which was committed by a white supremacist. “They’re angry with the world, angry with themselves, angry with society and they take it out on innocent people who are worshiping God,” Robertson continued. He recommended that people “talk about the love of God and hope it has some impact” to stop violence.

    http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conten...oting-atheists

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    Mr. Page was trained as an Army specialist in psychological operations, according to his service records.
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...363465564.html

    Alex Jones is going to have a field day with this one.

    "PsyOp" is his favorite word.

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    Pat Robertson Blames Sikh Temple Shooting on Atheists


    Today on the 700 Club, Pat Robertson said that “Satanic” atheists were to blame for the shooting at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin. Robertson claimed that “people who are atheists, they hate God, they hate the expression of God,” and are responsible for the massacre, which was committed by a white supremacist. “They’re angry with the world, angry with themselves, angry with society and they take it out on innocent people who are worshiping God,” Robertson continued. He recommended that people “talk about the love of God and hope it has some impact” to stop violence.

    http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conten...oting-atheists

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    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...363465564.html

    Alex Jones is going to have a field day with this one.

    "PsyOp" is his favorite word.
    He'll probably try to claim that he predicted this when he said Obama would stage a terrorist attack that kills millions and results in martial law.

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    Remember how Republicans themselves when the Bush administration's domestic terra prediction came out?

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    The drones got to him

    Anywho, it's odd that after every tragedy like this one, you see right wingers immediately come out with a defensive at ude and say, "Anyone who tries to politicize this and blame the GOP is a horrible person!"

    Wreeks of a guilty conscience.
    I don't think it's odd at all; nor is it a sign of guilt. It's a knee-jerk reaction due to a non-stop stream of such connections being made, erroneously, in the past.

    During the Aurora Shooting aftermath, Brian Ross immediately tries to tie the violence to the Tea Party by, apparently, just Googling the shooter's name, in conjuction with the term "Tea Party" and coming up with a guy, by the same name, associated with the Tea Party in Aurora and making the connection. Wrong.

    In the aftermath of the attempted assassination of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, a cacophony of accusations filled the airwaves that it was the violent, militaristic use of things like cross-hairs in Sarah Palin's ads that drove the shooter to act. Wrong.

    Immediately after the attempted Times Square bombing, Mayor Bloomberg insinuated it was probably someone opposed to Obamacare. Wrong.

    Some guy flies a plane into an IRS office and The New York Times asks, "The First Tea Party Terrorist?" Nope. He wasn't.

    Some census workers commits suicide and scrawls the word "Fed" on his own body and Time Magazine speculates it's related to Tea Party vitriol.

    Combine just those examples with the fact there have been NO instances of violence tied to the Tea Party and, well, you begin to wonder if the media and the left (sorry for the redundancy) are trying to invent a narrative about the Tea Party.

    Then, you look at the actual violence perpetrated by the Occupy crowd, who were supported by just about every top Democrat figure, including Obama and Pelosi, and you also wonder, WTF?

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    "non-stop stream of such connections being made, erroneously"

    self-describe much?

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    Then, you look at the actual violence perpetrated by the Occupy crowd, who were supported by just about every top Democrat figure, including Obama and Pelosi, and you also wonder, WTF?
    Name one act of violence allegedly perpetrated by the Occupy crowd that you feel merited national news coverage.

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