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I'd be really happy if I got the following before the series is over.
-Skylar dead
-a Jesse/Mike showdown
-a Hank/Walk showdown
and it seems to be gearing towards at least the last two.
We all knew Marie was gonna sell Walt out, but I was more excited about Hank now wondering why Walt had a second cell phone if it wasn't for another woman on the side.
I'd be really happy if I got the following before the series is over.
-Skylar dead
-a Jesse/Mike showdown
-a Hank/Walk showdown
and it seems to be gearing towards at least the last two.
I'd settle for Skylar becoming Tia White
I get the Skyler hate. Kinda. Especially from the people who still seem to want Walt to end up a badass. And I have disliked her character/motives ever since season 2 (Walt was an asshole and she had a reason to be both pissed and su ious, but she was annoyingly passive aggressive about the whole thing and the way she started moving in on Ted so she'd have a backup husband waiting in the wings after Walt died was really slimy). But I can't help feel sorry for her this season. Walt has been completely unsympathetic so far this season, and his manipulation of Skyler has been particularly disgusting.
I think he has been pretty creepy with the over the shoulder stuff, but I am just curious as to why it's "enough" for her now. If only Walt had listened to Saul
Ever since "I ed Ted!", I could give a rat's ass as to Skylar's feelings. Any leftover that was to be given disappeared when she emptied Walt's funds to cover Ted's IRS bull .
I think it's been "enough" since the one-who-knocks speech, but I think it's been exacerbated since the violence inherent to their new lifestyle became impossible to ignore. Her fear of Walt, combined with the fact she has been fully corrupted by his lifestyle to the point she can't even claim the moral high ground anymore, makes her feeling of being trapped and her concern for the safety of her children completely justified.I think he has been pretty creepy with the over the shoulder stuff, but I am just curious as to why it's "enough" for her now. If only Walt had listened to Saul
That arc, to me, just highlights how similar she and Walt are, but it's judged more harshly because it involves infidelity. Because of decisions she made earlier on, including putting her own signature all over books she knew to be dishonest, the money wasn't used to solve Ted's IRS bull . It was every bit as much her own IRS bull . Which makes it inaccurate to judge her actions as giving away Walt's money to do a solid for the guy she had been shtuping.
Walt decided to make meth when he needed money, saw the danger and was scared away, then made a conscious choice to return to said dangerous activity, from which all other choices made were justified by the rationale that he had to do it to save his family. Skyler saw that Beneke was cooking the books, saw the danger in staying there and threatened to quit, then made a conscious choice to stay and sign her name to the books, which then made giving him all the money the appropriate reaction justified by the rationale that she had to do it to save her family.
That's what makes Sky so frustrating. A conscious decision exposed her to danger, and she covered her ass. However, she refuses to to accept what Walt is doing. I need her to stop acting holier than thou when her constant need to micromanage things isn't helping her.
I don't think her distress this season is caused solely by Walt, though. As was made pretty clear in their argument in last night's episode, I think a lot of her fear/depression has to do with the person she has become as well. For instance, I think it's telling that her motivation is not to take the kids and run, but rather to get them out of the house altogether. No doubt she wants to keep them away from someone who'd blow up an old folks' home, but I think a big part of her frustration is that she doesn't even see herself as being a fitting parent any longer.
Like I said earlier, I'm no fan of Skyler's in general. And the fact I feel sorry for her shouldn't be read as me suddenly liking the character or justifying her actions. I just think that the people who want to dismiss Skyler as annoying or a two-dimensional /wife character are missing a lot of what's going on. The holier-than-thou at ude that lingered long after it was appropriate has been gone since the moment she saw Ted in the hospital.
Shoulda kept the townhouse.
Skylar's act of being an overparanoid freak, then suddenly ravaging on infidelity/money laundering extravaganza, then turning back into over paranoid freak is ridiculous.
Well, CF is right. Walt is pretty damn creepy now.
Unambiguously so. He's pretty clearly written and acted as a villain now.
I wouldn't worry about jumping the shark, last season early episodes were kinda crap too
Sure I have, and I didn't wait a week between episodes to mentally develop a character that wasn't implied in the show.
He's a small time meth dealer. He's a stereotypical dumb ass and always has to throw in " " and "yo" at every turn. He wears stereotypical garb and, until the "DL" statement with the red car, he's not even hinted at having an ounce of common sense. He's a less interesting version of Pineapple Express.
Evolved, sure, but all we know about him is what he told people about his childhood, about his brother that we've not even heard from since and about his drawing skills as a kid. We know he got too hooked on a girl he only knew for a short amount of time, and he acted as if he's never seen anyone killed for selling drugs on the wrong corner. Even Walt wasn't shocked at that. For someone that's evolved though, he's perpetually right back where he started. He's living in the same house (though he bought it) and he still does stupid kiddie . He had nothing to do with solving any serious issue, just came along to be the damsel in distress, as it were. That's not evolution. Keep in mind I haven't begun to watch the 5th season.
Really? So his acts to save his family, save Jesse from drug dealers, blow up the RV to disable/kill crazy 8 and his cousin, the death of Gus and Tico, the power play to keep both himself and Jesse alive by having Gale killed, allowing tattoo chick to die because she was a liability to both himself and Jesse, did you miss those episodes?
(Just barely) getting yourself out of the problems you create =/= heroism.
And if you see Walt allowing Jane to die or forcing Jesse to kill Gale as anything other than horrible, then, yes, we are watching very different shows.
I didn't like Skylar from the onset. She's a nagging, power hungry and Walt was a passive pussy. Her sister is just like her except more interesting and more annoying (purple).
I won't call it bad acting or bad writing, just a character I didn't connect with. Some women probably will, just as some bleeding hearts will connect with the re .
In the context of the show, where he could have just fled but decided to go back for Jesse and save his family, sure it does.
Well I didn't expect a show about a terminally ill man who turns to meth production to be graded using the same reference.And if you see Walt allowing Jane to die or forcing Jesse to kill Gale as anything other than horrible, then, yes, we are watching very different shows.
Ever heard the term "pirate among men, prince among pirates"?
The premise of the show already puts both Walt and Jesse as outlaws, and in the realm of the outlaw world, Walt beat Gus when he was at a huge disadvantage in resources and experience. He lured Gus in and disposed of him. I consider that heroism. The show isn't called Breaking Good.
Jesse also allowed Jane to die. Walt wasn't in a position to save Jane as she already made her intentions obvious: take Jesse's money and blackmail Walt. Jess again played the fool. Walt again played the savior. You might not like how he did it, but Jane was the antagonist in that scene. She had to die. The idea is for Walt to reach his goal, keep himself and his family alive and after the talk with Jane's father, Jesse was considered Walt's family. Jane was just a pretty meth head. She was otherwise no different than the guy who got his head crushed by an ATM.
I guess I disagree that Walt has spent much time acting as a prince.
In your world (among men).
Not among the pirates, either.
So Walt is worse than the cartel, worse than Gus, worse than Mike? Walt has only killed to stay alive. Those people have killed for profit. Mike is a hired killer.
Worse is debatable, but he's certainly not appreciably better than any of them.
And Walt has had plenty of opportunities to get out of the business before he was in any of the situations that made killing a necessity.
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