The AFC West

[DPG21920]

I got $500 that says they don't win their division...care to put some cheese behind that post?

[vander]

Son Pats/Chargers talk aside your among a group of re ed Chargers fans on this site. Don't expect any of them to give Marty credit or recognize the amount of talent the Chargers have lost and not effectively replaced since 2006 has everything to do with no longer having Marty.

Marty's Chargers were legit SB contenders, we're only talking about winning the pathetic AFC West here

[DeadlyDynasty]

??

[DPG21920]

SD has a realistic shot at winning their division, while Buffalo has a 0% chance of doing so--so WC is all they can hope for. The Charguhs are also infinitely better at the most important position in all of sports--QB

Good thing I am smart enough not to take your bait

[lefty]

sexual hypocrite

Now THAT's hypocrisy

[Avante]

Getting back (my thread) to Unitas vs Manning, totally different game back then. One thing is they only played 12 game seasons.

Unitas was far and away the greatest QB of his era, wasn't debatable. He is still on everyone (who knows the game)top 10 list.

[gaKNOW!blee]

Getting back (my thread) to Unitas vs Manning, totally different game back then. One thing is they only played 12 game seasons.

Unitas was far and away the greatest QB of his era, wasn't debatable. He is still on everyone (who knows the game)top 10 list.

Honestly I was going to PM DeadlyDynasty after he made his post and say "I guarantee Avante goes with the cliche it was a different game back then to explain the disparity in stats"....it was so obvious you were going to say that.

You can explain more touchdowns and more yards because Peyton has so many more passing attempts, but what part of the game being "different" would cause a quarterback to throw that many interceptions??

Sure Johnny U is a legend of the game and can be talked about in the top 10, but he doesn't doesn't come close to Peyton.

[Avante]

Honestly I was going to PM DeadlyDynasty after he made his post and say "I guarantee Avante goes with the cliche it was a different game back then to explain the disparity in stats"....it was so obvious you were going to say that.

You can explain more touchdowns and more yards because Peyton has so many more passing attempts, but what part of the game being "different" would cause a quarterback to throw that many interceptions??

Sure Johnny U is a legend of the game and can be talked about in the top 10, but he doesn't doesn't come close to Peyton.

I've always had this thing about reality. So we have to talk about eras.

Cornerbacks were all over receivers back then. Right in their grill. That makes a huge difference.

When we compare back in the day to today we have to go with dominance of era. , high school kids could have dusted Jesse Owens.

[Clipper Nation]

Cornerbacks were all over receivers back then. Right in their grill. That makes a huge difference.

Bump and run coverage was common until very recently, dumbass....

[Avante]

Bump and run coverage was common until very recently, dumbass....

Try knowing what you are talking about idiot.

Here ya go moron...

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Midway through his career, however, the rules regarding pass coverage were changed, making such harassment of a receiver illegal. The rule would come to be named the Mel Blount Rule. Blount ended his career with 57 interceptions, which he returned for 736 yards and two touchdowns. He intercepted at least one pass in all 14 NFL seasons and led the league in interceptions with 11 in 1975. Blount also was used as a kickoff returner early in his career. He totaled 36 returns for 911 yards and a 25.3-yard average. He also recovered 13 opponents' fumbles, two of which he returned for touchdowns.

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As a player, Blount was so dominant in man-to-man, bump-and-run coverage that the NFL actually changed the rules mid-way through his career to curb his game. The league mandated that cornerbacks could only jam receivers within a five-yard space off the line of scrimmage. Previously, receivers could be bumped until the ball was actually in the air. This new rule was called – you guessed it – the Mel Blount Rule. As a result scoring has increased significantly throughout the league.
“It’s definitely a different game today,” Blount said. “What the league has tried to do is make the game more wide open and create more scoring. They think that they can grow the fan base from that. It’s made the game for me, a person who played the game, less attractive. On the other hand, from a business standpoint, the NFL has succeeded in marketing the game as more high scoring and that has created more viewers.”

[Clipper Nation]

Firstly, apparently YOU don't know what you're talking about since you have to plagiarize from other websites, tbh...

Secondly, cornerbacks where still "all over recievers" and "right in their grill" even after the invention of the Mel Blount Rule, so maybe next time, be more descriptive with your bull , tbh....

[DPG21920]

Nothing DD ?

[johnsmith]

Old people always think old stuff was better than today's stuff.

How many younger kids have hit you up with the "Lebron is better than Jordan" argument?

Which we all know is just dumb.

In this instance though, Avante is Really ing old (allegedly), so he's lost touch.

Except for with Track and Field subjects, he seems to be really interested in that. So that means that everyone that runs track and field professionaly, and him, make up the fanbase.

[Avante]

Firstly, apparently YOU don't know what you're talking about since you have to plagiarize from other websites, tbh...

Secondly, cornerbacks where still "all over recievers" and "right in their grill" even after the invention of the Mel Blount Rule, so maybe next time, be more descriptive with your bull , tbh....

I told you how it was, then you ran some bull by me. So I simply showed you reality. Trust me little one I don't need any help.

And no things weren't the same "after" the Mel Blount Rule was put into place. You ever see Unitas play?

[Avante]

Old people always think old stuff was better than today's stuff.

How many younger kids have hit you up with the "Lebron is better than Jordan" argument?

Which we all know is just dumb.

In this instance though, Avante is Really ing old (allegedly), so he's lost touch.

Except for with Track and Field subjects, he seems to be really interested in that. So that means that everyone that runs track and field professionaly, and him, make up the fanbase.

I'm a bigger football fan than a track fan so wrong as usual.

Just so you know...

Todays athletes are farrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr superior to back in the day athletes. No things weren't better back when, so wrong again.

[johnsmith]

I told you how it was, then you ran some bull by me. So I simply showed you reality. Trust me little one I don't need any help.

And no things weren't the same "after" the Mel Blount Rule was put into place. You ever see Unitas play?

We know dude, you saw him play while managing a cheese manufacturer in the Himilayan Alps while tripping balls on acid. We get it.


Please do not reply to this.

[johnsmith]

I'm a bigger football fan than a track fan so wrong as usual.

Just so you know...

Todays athletes are farrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr superior to back in the day athletes. No things weren't better back when, so wrong again.

I don't recall granting you permission to reply to me. You know the rules Avante.

[Avante]

I don't recall granting you permission to reply to me. You know the rules Avante.

Let's talk the top QB's for each pro football teams back in the days of Johnny U.

AFL

Jets...Joe Namath
Bills...Jack Kemp
Patriots..Babe Parilli
Oilers..George Blanda

Chargers..John Hadl
Raiders..Daryl Lamonica
Chiefs..Len Dawson
Broncos..Frank Tripucka

Niners..John Brodie
Rams..Roman Gabriel
Vikings..Fran Tarkenton
Bears...Bill Wade
Lions..Milt Plum
Packers..Bart Starr
Colts..Unitas

Cowboys..Don Meredith
Steelers..Bill Nelson
Eagles...Norm Snead
Cards...Charley Johnson
Redskins..Sonny Jurgenson
Giants..Y.A. tle
Browns...Frank Ryan

[dirk4mvp]

Peyton stood out more in an era or definitely more elite QBs than Unitas did.


rofl unitas > Peyton

[Avante]

Peyton stood out more in an era or definitely more elite QBs than Unitas did.


rofl unitas > Peyton

Well lets see.

Hall of Fame

Joe Namath
Len Dawson
Bart Starr
Fran Tarkenton
George Blanda
Y.A. tle
Sonny Jurgenson
Johnny Unitas

[dirk4mvp]

So if those qbs played in this era, where would they rank?

[Avante]

So if those qbs played in this era, where would they rank?

None of them except maybe Roman Gabriel who was huge/strong arm, could play today. Back then a big D-lineman was 270 pounds, if a DB could run a 4.6 he was fast.

[dirk4mvp]

rofl Namath 173-220 TD-INT

[Avante]

rofl Namath 173-220 TD-INT

I agree, but he was the best thing the ans/Jets had ever had.

I don't think some of you understand how the game was played back then. A cornerback could bump a receiver around all the way down the field until the ball was in the air.

Fullbacks were the stud ball carriers. TE's with a couple exceptions (Mackey/Ditka) were blockers.

[johnsmith]

You know the rule!!