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First of all, this is my first post here and feel free to disagree-What is up with people thinking Wade is not a superstar anymore? Seriously, I am not afraid to criticize wade when necessary and I criticized him a lot during the playoffs. But, I am not blind enough to say hes not one of the top 5 players in the NBA.One thing that has me all confused is the fact that people consider kobe to be, after last season's performance, a top 3 player in the league(chris palmer @ESPNChrisPalmerOlympic hoops is a different animal. You'd never know Kobe is the second best player on the planet)Listen, I am impressed with what he accomplished last year as much as anyone. The guy was 2nd in scoring in the NBA at the age of 33, thats pretty impressive. But to consider him better than wade is just utter nonsense. lets compare-Minutes- When considering the stats, take in mind that Kobe averaged 38 mins last year while wade averaged 33. And Kobe was the 1st option while wade was the 2nd option.Scoring- Kobe is widely know as the better scorer among the two because of the fact that kobe averages more points. Well, thats not how it works kids. Scoring means how efficiently are you able to score rather than just firing up 25 times a game and making 9 of them.Kobe averaged 27.9 ppg on .430 % (9.9-23.0) shooting. while Wade averaged 22.1 ppg on .497% (8.5-17.1) shooting.Looking at that I conclude that Kobe scores more because he takes more shots and threes, therefore he makes more. Kobe is, obviously, a better shooter than wade but thats about all he does better than wade in terms of scoring because wade is the better finisher, slasher and more efficient, ADV- wadePassing- Wade is the better passer and that is obvious to me because he has consistently outperformed kobe in that category year in and year out. Stats-4.6 APG for both kobe and wade and thats pretty impressive for wade because not only was he not the predominant ball handler of the team (unlike Kobe) he also played less mins than kobe, who has two dominant big men he should be able to get more assits from. ADV- Wade Defense- Kobes defensive resume is quite impressive because hes been on numerous All NBA defensive teams but the thing is hes been living on reputation as far as defense goes because hes not a good defender anymore. He cosistently lets players drive past him and doesnt get many steals or blocks. While wade consistently gets better defensive stats as well as plays better one on one defense and is considered the best shotblocking guard in NBA history. stats- wade-1.3 blk 1.7 stls and kobe- 0.3 blk 1.2 stls ADV - Wade Efficiency- No contest here. stats- Wade-FG%- 497 PER- 26.37 Kobe-FG%- .430 Per- 21.95ADV- Wade Rebounding- Granted kobe has two of the best rebounders in the NBA on his team so he wont get many opportunities but he is almost 6-7 he should get more rebounds than a 6-3 D-wade. Also wade is more athletic which makes hm the more effective rebounder. Stats- wade-4.8 rpg Kobe-5.4 rpg ADV- evenOverall, kobe is a top 10 player but not a top5 and Wade had a bad year last year due to injuries, look for him to bounce back next year.
Last edited by Ace; 08-06-2012 at 09:36 PM.
Wait, WTF?
OK, I'll bite:
Kobe: 5
Wade: 2
Everyone wants to compare their favorite players to Kobe and try and argue why they think they are better. How many threads like this have we seen over the years? Kobe gets compared to Jordan while everyone else seems to get compared to Kobe.
Funny, I compare everyone with T-Mac...
Hey baby...why don't you come back to bed with me and let's cuddle...it's cold and it's too late at night to be carrying on like this....come on girl....I promise I won't fart on
you tonight - lol
Truth bomb. AI. TMac. Vincanity. Ray Allen. I'm sure I missed a few.Everyone wants to compare their favorite players to Kobe and try and argue why they think they are better. How many threads like this have we seen over the years? Kobe gets compared to Jordan while everyone else seems to get compared to Kobe.
Comparing LeBron to Kobe would be pointless. It's common knowledge at this point LeBron is clearly a couple levels better than Kobe..Everyone wants to compare their favorite players to Kobe and try and argue why they think they are better. How many threads like this have we seen over the years? Kobe gets compared to Jordan while everyone else seems to get compared to Kobe.
Comparing a player who has accomplished the ultimate NBA feat to a player who hasn't accomplished the ultimate NBA feat is just dumb.Comparing LeBron to Kobe would be pointless. It's common knowledge at this point LeBron is clearly a couple levels better than Kobe..
^If Lebron repeats, successfully defends his le, sure. Otherwise, step off son... like TOSB Jimbo.
repeating is a team accomplishment.
Winning MVP and finals MVP in the same season is an individual accomplishment.
Try to keep up.
Guys who have won MVP and FMVP in the same season:
LeBron James (2012)
Tim Duncan (2003)
Shaquille O'Neal (2000)
Michael Jordan (1991, 1992, 1996, 1998)
Hakeem Olajuwon (1994)
^
There must be a glitch, I dont see Kobe on that list
Or did Stern remove his achievements because of his criminal record ?
Also...Guys who have won MVP and FMVP in the same season:
LeBron James (2012)
Tim Duncan (2003)
Shaquille O'Neal (2000)
Michael Jordan (1991, 1992, 1996, 1998)
Hakeem Olajuwon (1994)
Kareem
Moses Malone
Larry Bird
Magic Johnson
Off the top of my head
lefty, Kobe won his MVP in 2008, the year the Celtics embarrassed the Lakers...
Yeah but he didnt win MVP and championship in the same season
Maybe Tim or Steve will sell Kobe one of their MVP awards. They've got two each.
Sup Daunte?
So still no Kobe
The search continues
2012 Wade wasn't even close to 2012 Kobe in the Playoffs.
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