Worst religion

[AussieFanKurt]

There are a ton of passages talking about violence towards non believers/infidels. Tons!!!!!!! Sorry but the Koran is very violent and it's not something taken out of context. It's very explicit, death to the infidels.

Maybe I was lead wrong, I was just under the impression while there was violence in it, it was similar to say the old testament and the main people who used it were idiots

[Avante]

Maybe I was lead wrong, I was just under the impression while there was violence in it, it was similar to say the old testament and the main people who used it were idiots

What religion preaches death to others? If a Muslim wants a gurantee of Paradise all he has to do is strap a bomb to himself find some infidels and...BOOM!!!!!!!! Something is very very wrong there.

I have a bunch of books on the topic but one in particular really lays it out. It's written by a guy leaving Islam and his reasons why.

[AussieFanKurt]

Interesting. I always love accounts of people leaving a faith. Always a good read

[Avante]

Interesting. I always love accounts of people leaving a faith. Always a good read

[Blake]

Conflating the word believe with think doesn't make them synonymous.

The dictionary makes them synonymous.

I conflate the word idiot with you.

[Blake]

But, again, I'm not a "Bible-thumper."

You're just masquerading in this thread as one

[Blake]

What religion preaches death to others?

Christianity for one.

[Spurminator]

and yet belief is in the definition of religion you can't have religion without belief.

Yes but you can have belief without religion.

[DMC]

This debate on epistemology often ends in a stalemate since the debate itself relies on acceptance of another view point that contradicts a currently held belief.

Instead, I try to understand the different classical arguments regarding epistemology. They easily address the common claims.

[Yonivore]

The dictionary makes them synonymous.

Only in certain senses of the verb believe, none of which are being discussed here.

[Blake]

Only in certain senses of the verb believe, none of which are being discussed here.

What sense have you been discussing here?

[Yonivore]

What sense are you referring to?

Well, it's not the sense where believe is used to evaluate, pass judgement, or judge -- which is the only sense for which think is a synonym.

The relevant sense of the word is: to accept.

[Yonivore]

What sense have you been discussing here?

The one where God is accepted as real or, is accepted as not real. The belief sense of the word.

[Yonivore]

This debate on epistemology often ends in a stalemate since the debate itself relies on acceptance of another view point that contradicts a currently held belief.

Instead, I try to understand the different classical arguments regarding epistemology. They easily address the common claims.

My wife said the epistemology was the worst part of childbirth.

[Blake]

The one where God is accepted as real or, is accepted as not real. The belief sense of the word.

Think:

9. to have a belief or opinion as indicated: I think so.

http://m.dictionary.com/definition/think?linkId=j0c529

[Yonivore]

Think:

9. to have a belief or opinion as indicated: I think so.

http://m.dictionary.com/definition/think?linkId=j0c529

The evaluative sense of the word. "I think so" implies an intellectual disposition based on the evaluation of input. "I believe" isn't so constrained.

Look, believing there is no God is as much a religion as believing there is.

[Blake]

Look, believing there is no God is as much a religion as believing there is.

what definition of religion are you referring to

[LnGrrrR]

Yoni, I think we're getting bogged down in semantics. Tell me, do you think the following statements are the same, or not?

I do not believe in a God.

I believe there is no God.

I have no belief in God/s.

[Yonivore]

Yoni, I think we're getting bogged down in semantics.

So, let's continue getting bogged down in semantics.

Tell me, do you think the following statements are the same, or not?

I think, if you believe a Creator does not exist or that there is no Creator, that's an article of faith which cannot be supported. It's a religion of sorts.

Stating you have no belief in God/s, assumes the existence of such but that you just have no faith in such.

Sue me.

[LnGrrrR]

So, let's continue getting bogged down in semantics.


I think, if you believe a Creator does not exist or that there is no Creator, that's an article of faith which cannot be supported. It's a religion of sorts.

Stating you have no belief in God/s, assumes the existence of such but that you just have no faith in such.

Sue me.

So when you said you have no belief in the Flying Spaghetti Monster, you were assuming his existence?

[LnGrrrR]

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[TeyshaBlue]

My wife said the epistemology was the worst part of childbirth.

[TeyshaBlue]

So when you said you have no belief in the Flying Spaghetti Monster, you were assuming his existence?

Boom goes the logic bomb.

[Spurminator]

Look, believing there is no God is as much a religion as believing there is.

Well that settles it!

[Blake]

My wife said the epistemology was the worst part of childbirth.

Judy: ......Then she had her utopian tubes removed.

Gardner: "No That's fallopian darlin'.

Judy: Fallopian? Them's books of the bible silly... first and second fallopians!

-Fandango (1985)