Worst religion

[Yonivore]

So when you said you have no belief in the Flying Spaghetti Monster, you were assuming his existence?

Where did I say I had no belief in the Flying Spaghetti Monster?

[LnGrrrR]

Where did I say I had no belief in the Flying Spaghetti Monster?

A whopping two pages ago:

Do you have, as an article of faith, a belief that there is no Flying Spaghetti Monster? Are you part of the anti-FSM religion?

No & No.

But you don't know for sure he doesn't exist; you merely have a belief that he doesn't. Unless you'd like to prove otherwise?

Or are you saying you don't have a belief that he doesn't exist; therefore, you DO have a belief that he DOES exist. Is that it? Please elaborate.

I don't have a belief, one way or the other.

Edit: Now let's just slot in the comment you made above

Stating you have no belief in God/s, assumes the existence of such but that you just have no faith in such.

[Th'Pusher]

Originally Posted by Yonivore
Where did I say I had no belief in the Flying Spaghetti Monster?

A whopping two pages ago:

Originally Posted by LnGrrrR
Do you have, as an article of faith, a belief that there is no Flying Spaghetti Monster? Are you part of the anti-FSM religion?

Originally Posted by Yonivore
No & No.

Originally Posted by LnGrrrR
But you don't know for sure he doesn't exist; you merely have a belief that he doesn't. Unless you'd like to prove otherwise?

Or are you saying you don't have a belief that he doesn't exist; therefore, you DO have a belief that he DOES exist. Is that it? Please elaborate.

Originally Posted by Yonivore
I don't have a belief, one way or the other.

Edit: Now let's just slot in the comment you made above

Originally Posted by Yonivore
Stating you have no belief in God/s, assumes the existence of such but that you just have no faith in such.

And scene. Yoni has again been logically dismantled.

[Yonivore]

A whopping two pages ago:

The no referred to my not having, as an article of faith, a belief in the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

My not having a belief, one way or the other, is consistent with that.

Edit: Now let's just slot in the comment you made above

Stating I do not have, as an article of faith, a belief in the Flying Spaghetti Monster != to not having a belief in the Flying Spaghetti Monster. I have absolutely no opinion on the existence of a Flying Spaghetti Monster beyond what I've already stated; With God, anything's possible.

[ALVAREZ6]

lol the South

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[Blake]

The no referred to my not having, as an article of faith, a belief in the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

My not having a belief, one way or the other, is consistent with that.



Stating I do not have, as an article of faith, a belief in the Flying Spaghetti Monster != to not having a belief in the Flying Spaghetti Monster. I have absolutely no opinion on the existence of a Flying Spaghetti Monster beyond what I've already stated; With God, anything's possible.

What's your definition of religion?

[Yonivore]

What's your definition of religion?

In the context of this conversation, a belief held as an article of faith.

[Clipper Nation]

In the context of this conversation, a belief held as an article of faith.

Coming up with stretched definitions to fit your lame argument

He asked what YOUR definition of religion is, B, not whatever definition is vague enough to fit your evangelical talking point of the day....

[Spurminator]

I hold as an article of faith that there is not a three-headed centipede swimming around in my ball sac at this very moment. I guess that makes me a follower of the religion of Non-Ballsac-Centipedism.

[Yonivore]

I hold as an article of faith that there is not a three-headed centipede swimming around in my ball sac at this very moment. I guess that makes me a follower of the religion of Non-Ballsac-Centipedism.

Weird but, it does. Why you would, I don't know but, to each his own, I say.

I can simply say, there's not a three-headed centipede swimming around in my ball sac at this very moment.

[LnGrrrR]

Weird but, it does. Why you would, I don't know but, to each his own, I say.

I can simply say, there's not a three-headed centipede swimming around in my ball sac at this very moment.

Are you 100% sure? Have you checked recently?

Or do you just BELIEVE that there's no centipede in there?

[AussieFanKurt]

bible belt

[Blake]

I can simply say, there's not a three-headed centipede swimming around in my ball sac at this very moment.

it's there.

It's invisible, but it's there.

[redzero]

In the context of this conversation, a belief held as an article of faith.

Your attemp to put atheists on the same level as people who believe in magical beings for no reason, is laughable.

[Yonivore]

Your attemp to put atheists on the same level as people who believe in magical beings for no reason, is laughable.

It's the certainty there is no God that makes it an article of faith which raises it to the level of a religion, IMO.

From where did matter come and what is responsible for the laws of physics that allows matter to move and form the universe?

I'm not sure physicists have found the answer. Do you know it?

[LnGrrrR]

It's the certainty there is no God that makes it an article of faith which raises it to the level of a religion, IMO.

Funny, your certainty of not having a centipede running around your crotch would seem to justify you being part of the Non-Ballsac-Centipedism.

[AussieFanKurt]

It's the certainty there is no God that makes it an article of faith which raises it to the level of a religion, IMO.

From where did matter come and what is responsible for the laws of physics that allows matter to move and form the universe?

I'm not sure physicists have found the answer. Do you know it?

Scientists don't know reasons behind many things in life. Had it ever occurred to you that we are still just finding out some things and it doesn't just mean that oh it must be god.

[LnGrrrR]

Also, the whole, "If you don't know who did, then GOD did!" is a horrible logical fallacy called the "God of the Gaps" argument.

You could use the same justification to say that matter came from a giant elephant composed of anti-matter who caused the Big Bang when he sneezed regular matter and blew himself up.

[redzero]

It's the certainty there is no God that makes it an article of faith which raises it to the level of a religion, IMO.

One doesn't need certainty to not believe something. I lack belief in God; I don't claim, with certainty, that there are no gods.

From where did matter come and what is responsible for the laws of physics that allows matter to move and form the universe?

I don't know. The same question applies to God, too.

I'm not sure physicists have found the answer. Do you know it?

Merely claiming "God did it" doesn't answer anything.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

religion
 
re·li·gion [ri-lij-uhn]
noun
1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.
4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.
5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.



Religion
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Religion is a collection of cultural systems, belief systems, and worldviews that relate humanity to spirituality and, sometimes, to moral values.[note 1] Many religions have narratives, symbols, traditions and sacred histories that are intended to give meaning to life or to explain the origin of life or the universe. They tend to derive morality, ethics, religious laws or a preferred lifestyle from their ideas about the cosmos and human nature.

The word religion is sometimes used interchangeably with faith or belief system, but religion differs from private belief in that it has a social aspect.[1] Many religions have organized behaviors, clergy, a definition of what cons utes adherence or membership, congregations of laity, regular meetings or services for the purposes of veneration of a deity or for prayer, holy places (either natural or architectural), and/or scriptures. The practice of a religion may also include sermons, commemoration of the activities of a god or gods, sacrifices, festivals, feasts, trance, initiations, funerary services, matrimonial services, meditation, music, art, dance, public service, or other aspects of human culture. However, there are examples of religions for which some or many of these aspects of structure, belief, or practices are absent.

Definition of RELIGION
1 a : the state of a religious <a nun in her 20th year of religion>
b (1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
2: a personal set or ins utionalized system of religious at udes, beliefs held to with ardor and faith , and practices
3 archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness
4: a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith


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This is not hard and all Yoni is doing is defining the premise with the conclusion. That's a circular argument.

Its pretty ing obvious what the commonality between all of the definitions is.

[Yonivore]

One doesn't need certainty to not believe something. I lack belief in God; I don't claim, with certainty, that there are no gods.

Then, that's not atheism.

I don't know. The same question applies to God, too.

Except science isn't religion.

Merely claiming "God did it" doesn't answer anything.

Well, until you prove to me nothing became what we see around us without a design, I'm believing in God.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

One doesn't need certainty to not believe something. I lack belief in God; I don't claim, with certainty, that there are no gods.

I don't know. The same question applies to God, too.

Merely claiming "God did it" doesn't answer anything.

I would take that farther and say that you cannot prove without doubt a negative. Certainty is an illusion and that is a big reason why religions are comforting.

[redzero]

Then, that's not atheism.

Yes, it is. Atheism doesn't require certainty; it only requires a lack of belief in deities.

Except science isn't religion.

Your point? Are we supposed to stop asking questions when it comes to religion?

Can you explain where God came from? Can you explain how he did what he did or why?

Well, until you prove to me nothing became what we see around us without a design, I'm believing in God.

I don't have to prove to you anything. Believe what you want. Me? I'm comfortable with admitting that we don't know how we came into being. I believe that's a better route than resorting to fairy tale non-answers.

using the same old "atheists believe we came from nothing" strawman

[ElNono]

From where did matter come and what is responsible for the laws of physics that allows matter to move and form the universe?

I'm not sure physicists have found the answer. Do you know it?

"Don't know yet" is a perfectly valid answer that requires no beliefs.