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    I don't really care... Yonivore's Avatar
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    How about we remove the possibility of innocent deaths altogether and get rid of the uncons utional death penalty,...
    As someone was reminding me in the abortion thread, SCOTUS has determined it to be cons utional.

    tbh.... aside from having ZERO margin of error...
    There are ways to reduce the margin of error and the first thing I would start with is holding prosecutors and police responsible for wrongful prosecutions.

    ...and being prohibitively expensive...for taxpayers,...
    Wouldn't have to be.

    ...it also violates the Eighth Amendment's "cruel and unusual punishments" clause...
    Not according to SCOTUS.

    and the Fifth Amendment's "No person shall be... deprived of life" cause...
    You forgot "...without due process..."

    In your world, I'm assuming "legitimate" means "started or continued by Republicans" and "illegitimate" means "started or continued by Democrats" tbh.....
    Nope, in my world -- and most everyone else's -- legitimate means sanctioned and authorized by the United States Congress and not prohibited by the stupid United Nations.

    The current conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq are being continued by a Democrat and, yet, I consider them legitimate.

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    I do see myself that way, thank you
    "Showing arrogant or offhand disregard; dismissive: a cavalier at ude toward the suffering of others."

    Yep, I agree.

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    It's more I've just given up arguing with your irrational at ude. Oh it's okay if some innocent people dies, that's fine although they are living, breathing, thinking PEOPLE. But unborn hardly developed foetus's dead. Oh that's another story

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    Some religious pro-lifers make the argument that one of the aborted fetuses might have cured cancer or something.

    Yeah right.

    The people who get abortions mostly are:
    Blacks
    White liberals
    Hispanics

    Take away black abortion and there are 60 million blacks instead of 40 million, and the extra 20 million are probably all either sucking on the welfare teat or out committing violent crimes. You want to know why violent crime has been on a long term decline? Because we have a successful long-term policy of pre-emptive execution in place.

    If these simian welfare mamas want to participate in voluntary genocide, why is that my problem?

    As for the white liberals, why is it so bad that kids who would grow up to be Democratic activist offspring of frustrated feminists get killed off early. It's just that many fewer of them to kill when the revolution comes.

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    Some religious pro-lifers make the argument that one of the aborted fetuses might have cured cancer or something.

    Yeah right.

    The people who get abortions mostly are:
    Blacks
    White liberals
    Hispanics

    Take away black abortion and there are 60 million blacks instead of 40 million, and the extra 20 million are probably all either sucking on the welfare teat or out committing violent crimes. You want to know why violent crime has been on a long term decline? Because we have a successful long-term policy of pre-emptive execution in place.

    If these simian welfare mamas want to participate in voluntary genocide, why is that my problem?

    As for the white liberals, why is it so bad that kids who would grow up to be Democratic activist offspring of frustrated feminists get killed off early. It's just that many fewer of them to kill when the revolution comes.

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    Some religious pro-lifers make the argument that one of the aborted fetuses might have cured cancer or something.

    Yeah right.

    The people who get abortions mostly are:
    Blacks
    White liberals
    Hispanics

    Take away black abortion and there are 60 million blacks instead of 40 million, and the extra 20 million are probably all either sucking on the welfare teat or out committing violent crimes. You want to know why violent crime has been on a long term decline? Because we have a successful long-term policy of pre-emptive execution in place.

    If these simian welfare mamas want to participate in voluntary genocide, why is that my problem?

    As for the white liberals, why is it so bad that kids who would grow up to be Democratic activist offspring of frustrated feminists get killed off early. It's just that many fewer of them to kill when the revolution comes.
    Margaret Sanger is alive and well.

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    Convenience abortions are the absolute epitome of moral bankruptcy.
    Methinks people who are into convenience abortions don't and won't exactly make good parents either.

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    Margaret Sanger is alive and well.
    Hook, Line, and Sinker.

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    Methinks people who are into convenience abortions don't and won't exactly make good parents either.
    I would go one step further and posit that they wouldn't make good corn husks. (i.e. carriers)

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    Methinks people who are into convenience abortions don't and won't exactly make good parents either.
    I agree with you. However, there is nearly an endless supply of people who want to adopt babies to raise their way. Not young children, but babies.

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    I agree with you. However, there is nearly an endless supply of people who want to adopt babies to raise their way. Not young children, but babies.
    I feel bad for older children stuck in orphanages.

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    I feel bad for older children stuck in orphanages.
    So do I.

    When are you going to adopt one? I won't. My kids are grown, and I want my freedom. Even if I ever considered adopting, the chances of me adopting such a kid is pretty slim.

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    So do I.

    When are you going to adopt one? I won't. My kids are grown, and I want my freedom. Even if I ever considered adopting, the chances of me adopting such a kid is pretty slim.
    My wife and I actually talked about it, but I'd be lying if I didn't say that it likely won't happen. What happens if the kid doesn't get along with our kids? What happens if he's too bitter from years in an orphanage? Lots of variables. Sometimes life just sucks.

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    My wife and I actually talked about it, but I'd be lying if I didn't say that it likely won't happen. What happens if the kid doesn't get along with our kids? What happens if he's too bitter from years in an orphanage? Lots of variables. Sometimes life just sucks.
    You can always go foster care. It's kinda like try before you buy.

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    You can always go foster care. It's kinda like try before you buy.
    Ugh, that just sounds cynical as .

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    My wife and I actually talked about it, but I'd be lying if I didn't say that it likely won't happen. What happens if the kid doesn't get along with our kids? What happens if he's too bitter from years in an orphanage? Lots of variables. Sometimes life just sucks.
    If you've thought about adopting, I'll bet you would take a newborn in a heartbeat. Am I right? Maybe a child no more than... say... about 18 months?

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    If you've thought about adopting, I'll bet you would take a newborn in a heartbeat. Am I right? Maybe a child no more than... say... about 18 months?
    If my wife and I couldn't produce a child, that would've been the 2nd option.

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