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    so what are lakers team tax obligations if this trade goes through, and resigning him to max....


    somewhere the teams under the tax are rubbing their hands with the shared revenue...

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    I've always thought there are underhanded deals going down between owners / execs. I'm talking about agreeing to sell prime real estate, side business deals, etc., personal interst type things.

    How else do you explain teams continuously bending over backwards and taking the raw end of deals all the time with LA?

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    Got to believe RC knows what he's doing. It seems every team in the league but the Spurs actually wants to get good bigs. If Diaw had not fallen into our lap we would be looking at another year with Blair/Bonner starting.

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    No ripple effects. The Spurs couldn't get over a team that doesn't even have a legit inside presence. They will win a lot of regular season games and, barring injuries, will lose in the 1st round.
    Second round. Hopefully another big falls into their lap like Diaw.

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    Big Dog Theory. 5 Alpha Dogs cannot play together at 1 time(well, Gasol is more like a Beta Dog). But still...it doesn't work. Some players are going to have to set ego aside and have to learn how to defer. I see implosion the likes of the 04 LAL...Book it.

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    Unlikely we'll see a small-market team such as the Spurs rack up 4 rings again - EVER.

    All these recent Pro-Wrestling style moves by the NBA just make the Spurs championships that much more impressive and special.

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    Second round. Hopefully another big falls into their lap like Diaw.
    birdman and blatch is still available

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    Big Dog Theory. 5 Alpha Dogs cannot play together at 1 time(well, Gasol is more like a Beta Dog). But still...it doesn't work. Some players are going to have to set ego aside and have to learn how to defer. I see implosion the likes of the 04 LAL...Book it.
    I recall similar wishful thinking after the Lakers were gifted Gasol.

    Lakers will win a ring or two from this gift. Barring injuries, for certain it will be Showtime vs Superfriends in next year's finals.

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    At least we can hack a got now.
    Co-signed.

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    I recall similar wishful thinking after the Lakers were gifted Gasol.

    Lakers will win a ring or two from this gift. Barring injuries, for certain it will be Showtime vs Superfriends in next year's finals.
    Oh yeah everybody in the media will say Kobe is the greatest player of all time blah blah blah.

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    Stern will veto this. Orlando got a horrendous package. Protected firsts from playoff teams and Arron Afflalo? 25 owners in the league are going to be raising tomorrow.

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    happy for philly/doug collins. hopefully bynum will get act straight.

    the nuggets got a good deal too. i guess everyone but the magic did.

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    This trade doesn't bother me as much as it probably should. As far as I'm concerned, Bynum has a better back to the basket game than Dwight does, and at least Bynum hits his free throws. Dwight is much better in transition, but as far as I'm concerned, the more the Lakers try to run, the bigger our advantage. Plus Dwight won't sign an extension and will become a free agent. There's a solid chance he signs with the Mavs or Rockets

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    I think this move might force us to make a knee jerk signing of Andray Blatche just to add some freakin size

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    can the lakers acquire all the es in the nba?
    lol!!!

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    lol Orlando... Are they really that stupid?? Why didn't we get Howard and give them Bonner and Neal, it's the same Denver gave them.

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    I'm worried about Nash being on that team but then I see all of our PG's and I can see them getting passed him easily.

    This just shows we need a defensive big, I still think the Lakers have no ing bench... so they are beatable.

    I guess the Magic were trying to do their own OKC rebuild... and this one isn't working.

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    Every single time the Lakers look to be verging on or are in full on irrelevancy, something suddenly emerges and thrusts them right back into pole position.

    You can't tell me the Rockets couldn't have beaten this offer easily. They have way better picks to offer, could damn near (if not entirely) wipe out all of the Magic's terrible contracts and give them intriguing, young, inexpensive pieces, that are at the very least comparable to what the Magic got. Plus, they were the most desperate team. They've have given up more than they wanted to get this done. Afflalo makes zero sense for the Magic, as he's vastly overpaid and is virtually useless on a re-building team. And to top it all off, they basically don't get rid of any bad contracts, because Afflalo replaces Richardson. This is even more suspect than the lottery.
    this!

    could it be, that they give a load of money to orlando without telling anybody (I guess they could include 3 mio but maybe they just sent 50 more in the backround?)

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    I'm worried about Nash being on that team but then I see all of our PG's and I can see them getting passed him easily.

    This just shows we need a defensive big, I still think the Lakers have no ing bench... so they are beatable.

    I guess the Magic were trying to do their own OKC rebuild... and this one isn't working.
    The bench is coming. Barbosa and other players are already lining up to play for the Lakers. It's the trickle-down effect.

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    They preferred this deal to Howard for Bynum straight up? Heh

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    Nuggets got a steal in this trade as well. Dumped Al and picked up one if the best wing defenders in the league

    Lawson/Miller
    AI/Hamilton/Fournier
    Gallo/Chandler/Brewer/Q Miller
    Faried/Randolph
    McGee/Mozgov/Koufos

    Doubt the rooks get many minutes.

    That starting 5 will continue to run teams out of the gym

    Lawson will run rings around old man Nash
    Iggy will shut down KoMe
    Gallo (if he ever shows up) will finally outplay MWP
    Faried will bully the soft spainish Sasquatch
    Pam McGee is superman's kryptonite.

    It'll be Spurs-Nuggs WCF (I gotta be right one year )

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    What do you prefer if you are a laker fan :

    CP3 / Kobe / Artest / ??? / Howard starting last year

    or

    Nash / Kobe / Artest / Pau / Howar this year

    The veto cost them CP3 instead of Nash and 1 year of Kobe's career but the kept Pau.

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    I don't think the trade means so much for LA (and the Spurs).

    Last year Bynum was nearly on the same level as D12 and at this point D12 is an injury risk just like Bynum.

    The winners of the trade are Philly and Denver. LA does fine but its not like the Memphis trade...and Orlando made the Knicks look smart.

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    What do you prefer if you are a laker fan :

    CP3 / Kobe / Artest / ??? / Howard starting last year

    or

    Nash / Kobe / Artest / Pau / Howar this year

    The veto cost them CP3 instead of Nash and 1 year of Kobe's career but the kept Pau.
    Only this year the later version, but CP3+D12 would have given LA the perfect future.

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    Well, it isn't obviously good news for Spurs. Lakers and Nuggets are getting better.

    There isn't a lot of things Spurs can do to counter this trade. They can add a third string center to have more bodies and fouls to throw at Dwight but it would only help them a little. Best centers available are Darko Milicic, Jermaine O'Neal and Chris Andersen but I doubt they would be fine with such a limited role. Tony Battie might be a not so bad choice if he hasn't decided to retire.

    The Howard trade could open some trade opportunities for Spurs. Teams won't have to hold on their players with the hope to get Howard. Spurs aren't a team that should or could make a huge deal but I'm convinced that the best option for them is to trade Neal and Blair.

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