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We shouldn't forget that Reagan also got an electoral vote in the 1976 elections.
I just don't get it at all. After an awful term disillusioned Obama voters were right there to be picked off by Romney, so instead he comes out an basically endorses the neocon Ryan plan and ensures they all go running back to Barack. What a ridiculously fortunate break for Obama.N
Talk about lackluster. Is anyone excited for this election? No way Obama loses this... Where's the enthusiasm on the Republican side?
We shouldn't forget that Reagan also got an electoral vote in the 1976 elections.
Poker? Good job.
The easiest thing to call in this thread was Yoni and WC support where no one else wanted to give it.
Romney's Veep Pick: Paul Ryan, Koch Ally and 'Right-Wing Social Engineer'
under Ryan's Not-Medicare "Medicare" plan, seniors would pay significantly more for their health care, according to an analysis by the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office:
Specifically, by 2030, seniors under the GOP’s transformed program would pay 68 percent of what they’d pay in the private market — up from 25 percent in the status quo scenario.
Of course, photos of the children who would lose health care under the Ryan plan would probably not play well for Romney, either. Democracy Corps, the polling outfit run by Stan Greenberg and James Carville, found Ryan budget to be a drag on Romney's prospects for moving swing voters into his column. (Greenberg refers to the key Obama coalition of unmarried women, youth, and minority voters as the "Rising American Electorate.) From their latest memo [10], issued in July:
The Ryan budget’s impact on the most vulnerable is powerful among key swing voters, including unmarried women, who shifted a net 10 points toward Obama, the Rising American Electorate (net 3-point shift), and independents (net 9-point shift). Even conservatives were swayed, shifting a net 13 points toward Obama.
Among those who heard an even split of facts about the Ryan budget – including ones about cuts to programs aimed to help mostly lower and working class families – the shift is even more pronounced. With this group of voters, Obama leads Romney by 9 points, 52 to 43 percent, the largest margin of any of the groups in our experiment. It’s clear that focusing on what the Ryan budget does to the most vulnerable Americans can pay dividends for Obama.
Looks like the Koch brothers are going to have to throw a whole lot of money at this thing to make it work for them. But we know they've got plenty of that.
http://www.alternet.org/print/hot-ne...ocial-engineer
So, can the Repugs win by outspending the Dems with 1%ers $Bs?
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by disenfranchising 100Ks of legit (nearly all Dem) voters?
Can't wait for the VP debate. He will obliterate Biden.
Lol @ board libs going full blown scanners in this thread.
So I take it you think it's smart to not pick off Obama voters and cater to those who were voting for Romney already? This VP pick is one of the best things that could have happened to Obama in this election.
Wow...
The easiest thing to call in this thread was Yoni and WC support where no one else wanted to give it.
I didn't know the few words I said count as support.
Please show me which of my statements offer the most support.
Obamabots are already locked in.
I'm not talking about Obama's base.
forgot Darrins tbh
The easiest thing to call in this thread was Yoni and WC support where no one else wanted to give it.
It makes no sense whatsoever. He could have just implemented the Ryan plan after getting elected instead of running on it and giving Obama a much better chance at re-election. I cannot believe a president as bad as Obama has a chance at a second term, much less looks to be a favorite for re-election. LOL Republicans.
If Obama wants to finish off Romney for good, he'll get Hillary to run as VP.
Heck, picking a governor (and he had a few fairly popular ones), gave him not only the possibility to lock a swing state, but also avoid talking about voting records when Congress is at the bottom of likeability.
But hey, good luck to Mitt.
Haha, nothing like picking one of the most visible congressmen when congress has something like a 13% approval rating.
Wow, so Obama actually can get worse?
Gecko using Ryan's budegting
Why Romney's Tax Plan is Mathematically Impossible
A quick analysis based on class shows that the math simply doesn't add up, particularly for the poor and middle class.
The big news in campaign trail policy wonkery last week was the Tax Policy Center's white paper by Samuel Brown, William G. Gale, and Adam Looney arguing that it is mathematically impossible for the Romney tax plan to meet its described goals. Ezra Klein has write-ups here and here, and James Pethokoukis has analysis here. Since Romney hasn't released his plan, Brown, Gale, and Looney cleverly put together the best case scenario and crunch the numbers -- and conclude they don't work.
How is that? Romney's plan has three goals. It starts by lowering tax rates by 20 percent. It then seeks to keep raising the same amount of tax revenues as it did before by removing tax expenditures, or the variety of exemptions, deductions, or credits in the tax code that function as government spending. As the wonks would say, it wants to "lower the rates and broaden the base." However, and this will be crucial, it excludes expenditures related to investment income and savings from being available for these cuts. Finally, it wants to maintain the current level of progressivity by making sure that the top one percent pays no less in taxes and everyone else pays no more. The Tax Policy Center analysis shows that it is impossible to do all three: enacting the Romney plan requires cutting taxes on the top one percent and raising them on everyone else.
http://www.nextnewdeal.net/rortybomb...lly-impossible
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Remains to be seen I guess. Obviously this excites the conservative base that wasn't very enthusiastic about Romney, but how many of those people weren't already still going to show up anyway to vote out Obama?
Strange but true.Wow, so Obama actually can get worse?
Less Interesting Person Than Romney Found in Wisconsin
U.S.S. WISCONSIN (The Borowitz Report)—An exhaustive manhunt that took months and spanned the country came to a dramatic end today as a less interesting person than Mitt Romney turned up in Wisconsin.
On the deck of the U.S.S. Wisconsin, officials from the Guinness Book of World Records were on hand to certify the result of the search.
“This man is in fact the least interesting person in America,” one Guinness official said, adding that Mr. Romney himself had held that le since 1947.
Mr. Romney and the man made a joint appearance, after which the audience was advised not to operate heavy machinery.
The man of the hour used his brief remarks to lay out his vision of America, saying that billions of dollars could be saved by eliminating food, clothing, and shelter.
For his part, Mr. Romney sounded a theme for the fall campaign: “It’s time to transform America, and the two of us are both Transformers.”
Read more http://www.newyorker.com/online/blog...#ixzz23GuH1hDd
Embracing Ryan, and His Budget Details
To date, Mitt Romney has been criticized for the lack of detail behind his promise to reduce the nation's rising debt through sweeping spending cuts and tax changes, but also politically insulated by it.
Now, his gamble in tapping as his running mate Representative Paul D. Ryan, the author of the audacious House Republican budget plan, changes all of that.
The budgets that Mr. Ryan, the chairman of the House Budget Committee, has pushed through the Republican-controlled House this year and last have defined nothing short of a conservative reordering of the nation's tax and spending priorities for the 21st century. His blueprint would greatly shrink the government, largely undoing the social safety net by shifting more costs onto individuals and essentially converting Medicare into a capped voucher program. It also would adjust the progressive income-tax system, which, like the safety net, was built through the 20th century under Republican as well as Democratic presidents.
The Ryan budgets were predictably blocked by the Democratic-controlled Senate and President Obama. Yet should Mr. Romney win election, it is far from clear how a Romney-Ryan budget would fare even in a friendlier Congress, given the politically and fiscally fraught particulars that Mr. Ryan and his House Republican colleagues have proposed.
The Ryan plan, which Mr. Romney endorsed during the hard-fought race for the Republican nomination, would cut about $6 trillion from projected spending in the first 10 years. But the plan also would cut revenues by $4 trillion, and more over time, by slashing individual and corporate income taxes. The government would not run a surplus for three decades, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office - an outcome that would have been heresy to pro-tax-cut but anti-deficit Republicans of the past.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/article;js...?a=959232&f=19
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Sons, Paul Ryan's economic "plan" would induce trillion dollar deficits every year... nothing would be cut, money for social programs would just be rerouted to the military.... the dollar would lose its reserve status, we would be Greece 2.0...
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