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for pete's sake bum...act like somebody will ya...
stop the in whining
Other than Clipperfans, Celticfans, Kingfans, Spurfans, and Sunfans, who all have actual valid reasons to hate the Lakers, tbh....
for pete's sake bum...act like somebody will ya...
stop the in whining
Oh yeah more money in his rigged leagues pockets! KOBE VS LEBRON, like the commercials years ago on it with them two he will get it no matter what the cost! Lets hope two teams dash that dream, I doubt it but lets hope God prevails there and they do not make it next year.
Mainly because 90% of Lakerfans in general don't have a clue who Capt. Jack, Boris Diaw, and Patty Mills are, tbh...
Real Thunder Fans speak out:
Think of it like this... We had a tough series with them last year.... It went only five, but two of our four wins were nail biters and honestly, one was a gift. In that series, you could have made an argument that improved PG play and more toughness inside could have flipped the outcome for the Lakers. Well, how about Steve Nash and Dwight Howard to address that problem? Pretty big time.No other way to spin it, this was a tremendous deal for the Lakers. Adding Howard while keeping Pau is just huge. Howard will be motivated, and while Bynum is a very solid NBA center, he can't hold a candle to Howard in terms of overall impact.I'm not saying the Lakers have leapfrogged the Thunder in the West, but you know what? It's close. Yeah, Nash is 38. He was also an All-Star that finished second in the league in assists while shooting a career high 53.2% from the field last season. And let's give Kupchak his due here. He managed to pick up Howard AND keep Gasol. I'm just saying, don't sell this Lakers team short.
This is a good one... - lol
We are no longer set up to match up well with them. Westbrook toasts them in large part because he doesn't need to play defense against Sessions or Blake. Now, while he will still blow by Nash, he has to pay attention to him on the other end.
We are delusional if we don't acknowledge this is a bad day for OKC. Howard was hurt last year and he laid down... He is a huge baby and he totally derailed his coach and his team. He is very easy to root against.
But he will be motivated now; he will be engaged. And let's not forget that when engaged he has led a so-so roster to the conference finals and NBA Finals.
Yes, the Lakers DO have an answer for RW now.... Howard. He is ten times more of basket protector than Bynum--- he is as dominant a center defensively as you will ever see. And we have NO ONE to take him away from the paint. He does not need to guard Perk.
Nash-Kobe-Pau-Howard is sick. Just sick. It's a great fit because Kobe can still take most of the shots--- Nash and Howard are effective without shooting. Metta really played well against us last year and Jamison will give them some bench scoring.
It's a bad day for us OKC fans.Perk will guard Howard one on one as anyone can, but the problem is that Perk's liability on offense will be greatly exposed by the Lakers now. Bynum was not a rim protector. He was no real threat to slow RW or Harden down on drives. But now, when Perk is out there, Howard can totally ignore him and shift his focus to staying near the basket. He also defends the pick and roll very well. Nash has no prayer of guarding any of our guys, but next year Howard will cover him much of the time. Conversely, last year RW did not need to expend any energy on defense and could gamble. Now, if he sags off Nash, he will get burned.I would like to inject the GMs of the Suns and Magic with a truth serum and ask them WHAT they were thinking. If one believes in conspiracy theories, one could only conclude that there is some sort of league agreement preventing the Fakers from being subject to the same boom and bust cycles as every other team in the NBA - and this is not JUST because they're in a big market (the Knicks, Clippers, and Nets are in big markets and they've been irrelevant for LOOOOOONNGGGG stretches of time).
I have not conceded anything to the Fakers - I would NEVER do that. But no one can objectively say they haven't gotten much better this summer against considerable odds, and that makes the Thunder's path to the championship tougher.
God, I HATE the Fakers!I have no doubt that Nash wanted the Lakers all along but knew that he would have to take a massive pay cut to go there so he pleaded with Phoenix to make a sign and trade to take advantage of the Laker trade exception.They’re poachers. They sense weakness in a market, presumably lowball the owner and end up flipping the product for extended playoff runs.
Mainly because 90% of Lakerfans in general don't have a clue who Capt. Jack, Boris Diaw, and Patty Mills are, tbh...
More like lakerfans just love to talk no matter what lol. That's what u should say and it actually is true. I stay in southern cal and a little over a year and a half ago some lakerfan came over to bother me cause I had a spurs T on. After a few times I tried to let him know he was barking up the wrong tree, I put his ass to sleep and left him right there where I found him and walked right out the bar. Lol
you just love telling that fake ass story every chance you get huh?...this is like the 3rd time I've heard you popping off...keep that up and I will pay Tyson and Taco Meat $5 a piece to put in some work on my behalf...
Fixed that for you, B...Real Thunder Fans speak out:
Great quotes Kool. I especially like the one about WB being able to gamble on D (basically resting) and the one about OKC not having anyone to take D12 out of the paint. Nash has to be guarded. He's crafty with the rock in his hand. A true triple threat. We'll treat Perkins like we used to treat Rondo. D12's PNR D is top notch and he protects the rim like the Dream used to. Simply put: OKC in trouble.
We have to be honest. Laker fans as well.
There are 2 NBA's, the big markets, and the smaller ones. Other than a few exceptions (read: Duncan to the Spurs, Nash to Phoenix), the big market teams (read: Lakers) always try getting the best combination of players. I personally didn't think this was going to happen - I don't think anyone wants a 2nd Gasol-Kobe thing happening, for obvious reasons - it takes the compe iveness out of the game.
Lakers was garbage between the time Shaq left LA and Gasol went over there for peanuts. I consider the Bynun-D-Ho trade bogus. You can't compare those 2 players. The same was said about the Gasol trade.
Somehow rules are bent when it comes to loading up the Lakers. I thought the same thing when they were trying to land CP3.
I believe the NBA is finished as long as this type of trades are allowed - this isn't about players wanting or hoping to play in LA since before they are born. This is a business, and LA has a lot of muscle and clout. Perhaps more than any other team. It is a huge advantage that - again, in my opinion - minimizes their accomplishment.
I know, it hurts...
^ Occupy Staples son.
It's a combination of factors:
- Location. Location. Location. Sunny beaches. Groupies. LA nightlife.
- Winning tradition. Like you said, players grow up dreaming of playing for LA. Blame Showtime
- The Logo has taught MK well. Really well. The Lakers go after disgruntled stars. Then they poach on lottery picks that don't pan out to augment their stars. They don't make moves for the sake of making moves.
- Sound business decisions. $5B TWC TV deal, sold out Staples, merchandising, endorsements and RS/playoff concessions/ticket sales all offsets luxury taxes.
There's more, but blame inept GMs and owners that look out for their bottom line rather than putting out a quality product on the floor.
Agreed, though I think its more the CBA (and by extension NBA) is setup to give disproportionate advantages to larger markets (or at least it continues to since many of the penalties haven't taken effect yet).
For the casual fan, its hard to reconcile how a team like the Lakers, who were over the cap at $63,179,384 with only Pau, Kobe, Bynum, MWP, Steve Blake, Mcroberts, and Eyenga at the start of free agency, are able to pick up an All-star PG in Nash (at $10 million a season), the most dominant center in DH (at $20 million a season), along with a few decent role players like Jamison and Meeks by only giving up Bynum and draft picks that at best will be in the mid-to-high 20s.
It would be hard to accept any team that is already over the cap improving their team with $40 million in additional salary when other teams are being hit with a $74 million hard cap due to the exceptions they use. The fact that the Lakers, while over the cap, were able to add nearly $40 million more in salary this coming season is frustrating. But the owners wanted more money not parity for the league, or else they wouldn't have settled for a system that enabled the Lakers to have a $100 million dollar payroll.
get your math right please, it's $5bn.
Clippers have been there since it opened. Dr. Buss v. Sterling. Logo/MK v. Baylor. Nuff said.
get your math right please, it's $5bn.
I'm pretty sure there have been many $100+ million rosters...but I do agree with you that the pressure will be extremely high on the Lakers to produce a championship.
But at the same time, who cares? These are the Lakers....the team who can just open up their pocket book and have an endless supply of players willing to play for them. If this was the Spurs who went out and purchased a roster like this, they'd go bankrupt if the team didn't produce a championship....this is not the case for the Lakers.
Large markets have an inherent advantage...someone is trying to sell you fool's gold if they say otherwise.
Large markets have a huge advantage indeed. That cable deal I was correcting LkrFan about, there is no way in that the Lakers would get that if they were not in Los Angeles.
Laker fans already anointing their team as 2013 champs is a big step when taking on a center who has no game w/o relying on athletic ability in a situation where he is coming off an operation on his back from a herniated disk.
I said this months ago, but Howard will be bothered by that back the rest of his career. The Lakers took a big risk dealing Bynum to take him imo.
Even when he was 100% healthy, he had a hard time staying out of foul trouble...I want to see him move at game speed before I am a believer.
Overrated trade until he proves the back is good. If he proves it is, it was a good addition, but it is a big IF.
I'm cautious because this has happened before. But let me enjoy having Kobe, Pau, Nash and Dwight on one team
No...but Kobe & Nash are in their 16th... and certainly not in their primes either.
& Prime Shaq > Prime Howard.
Lakers' ownership is ran by the Buss family, but the minority owner - Mr. Phillip Anschutz - is worth $7B. Be lucky he's not the majority owner. Those "lean years" post Shaq would have been worse for Non-Laker fans. At least Dr. Buss is leery of the luxury tax - unless he senses a disgruntled superstar wants out that is. I highly doubt that Mr. Anschutz would care about it.
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