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    I'm pretty sure there have been many $100+ million rosters...but I do agree with you that the pressure will be extremely high on the Lakers to produce a championship.

    But at the same time, who cares? These are the Lakers....the team who can just open up their pocket book and have an endless supply of players willing to play for them. If this was the Spurs who went out and purchased a roster like this, they'd go bankrupt if the team didn't produce a championship....this is not the case for the Lakers.

    Large markets have an inherent advantage...someone is trying to sell you fool's gold if they say otherwise.
    $2 playoff tickets tbh.

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    Lakers' ownership is ran by the Buss family, but the minority owner - Mr. Phillip Anschutz - is worth $7B. Be lucky he's not the majority owner. Those "lean years" post Shaq would have been worse for Non-Laker fans. At least Dr. Buss is leery of the luxury tax - unless he senses a disgruntled superstar wants out that is. I highly doubt that Mr. Anschutz would care about it.
    This Lakers team is a monster,........ in 2009.
    Age, injuries, and poor perimeter defense will be the biggest problem for this team. They are primed to be ousted by a jump shooting, lower seed. On offense, teams will go at Nash. On defense, they will foul Howard to keep the offense out of sync. I also will be shocked if Nash can make it through the entire season. Gasol will be lost in the shuffle. The final question is how will they convince Kobe to take less than 20 contested shots a game?

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    You gotta understand that anytime a superstar wants out, and makes it publicly known, you're simply not going to get anything close to fair market value.

    The Magic knew this and for some reason decided to draw out the process as long as they could. That's their fault, but to be honest I'm not sure I would have really taken the Nets offer either. Lopez is mediocre and the last thing they want at this point is to be saddled by a large contract for a player they don't want. They have enough of those already.

    My main criticism for the Magic is them not finding a way to dump Turkolugu in the process. Howard is at least worth that IMHO, but I guess beggars can't be choosers.

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    Laker fans already anointing their team as 2013 champs is a big step when taking on a center who has no game w/o relying on athletic ability in a situation where he is coming off an operation on his back from a herniated disk.

    I said this months ago, but Howard will be bothered by that back the rest of his career. The Lakers took a big risk dealing Bynum to take him imo.


    Even when he was 100% healthy, he had a hard time staying out of foul trouble...I want to see him move at game speed before I am a believer.

    Overrated trade until he proves the back is good. If he proves it is, it was a good addition, but it is a big IF.
    El - the Lakers did their homework. From world famous LG:

    Just listened to Dr. Robert Klapper, chief of orthopedic surgery at Cedar Sinai and ESPN 710's resident expert.

    Some highlights:

    1. From an orthopedic surgery standpoint he would much rather have Dwight's back than Andrew's knees.

    2. The knees have a much more "chronic injury" issue than Dwight's back which is an "acute injury" that can be repaired with very little sequelae.

    3. After surgery, you can't play basketball and engage in any heavy physical activity for 4 months.

    Why?

    Because the injury is a disc herniation: a small amount of the nucleus pulposus or the "shock absorber" of the disc got squeezed out. It is a VERY SMALL amount. You get rid of the "squirted out" material with a 1 inch incision under a microscope.

    There is a 5-10 percent chance that returning to physical activity too early could herniate more material. That's obviously not good because you've reherniated the disc and have to remove more of the extruded disc.

    Bear in mind that Dwight was fully recovered, pain free, and ready to work out probably a few weeks after surgery (it is only 1 inch incision after all). BUT returning to physical activity too early gets you that 5-10 percent chance. Keep in mind that means there is a 90 to 95% chance that if he came back after only a month or so he would be fine.

    But he is Dwight Howard and so they are being super, super cautious.

    4. He had surgery 04/20/2012 which means he should be able to resume training, weights, basketball activity, etc around 08/20/2012 if everything goes according to schedule and he feels no pain, etc.

    5. Per Dr. Klapper, based on that schedule Dwight should be ready for opening night (10/30/2012). He'll have 2 months to get his conditioning back. Again assuming he recovers as expected and at his age and conditioning there should be NO REASON for any setbacks.

    6. Dwight will ALWAYS know he had surgery, he'll ALWAYS feel just a little different. That's unavoidable. BUT that feeling doesn't affect his ability to do what he needs to do. Per Dr. Klapper as fans we should be able to tell NO DIFFERENCE in the way he plays. He should have essentially NO difference in his skills, athleticism, etc.

    7. By way, reading some medical papers addressing the effects of laminectomy on NBA athletes, those papers support Dr. Klapper's assertion that Dwight should be back as good as new.

    8. That should answer the question why teams are still willing to kill themselves to get Dwight Howard despite this "back injury" issue. It's a non-issue moving forward. Also why he and his agent are very comfortable not extending and waiting for the end of the season to sign a new max contract. They know, all-world BEAST 3x DPOY Howard is coming back this year. With Stephen A interview, Dwight pointed out that he absolutely felt he could have won a 4th straight DPOY if he had been fully healthy. He's ready to come back and remind everyone who he is on the basketball floor. Trust me, he may be smiling but this whole Dwightmare did affect him and he's going to playing with an edge, especially on defense.

    The most dominant defensive force in the NBA basically feels disrespected and the league has NO IDEA what is coming down on them from the 5 slot.


    Summary: If everything goes according to schedule, we should hear something by the end of August that Dwight is starting to work out again on the court, lifting, running etc.

    Chances are good that he'll be ready for the start of the season.

    Chances overwhelmingly good that there will be no lasting effect from this particular injury.


    Final point: He played with a lot of pain and discomfort when the incompetent, dumbass Magic medical staff misdiagnosed with "back spasms." He said it was more pain than he had ever experienced since he was in the league.

    That's why the thing that hurt him personally the most in the media was that he was faking an injury and quitting on his team. He put up All-Star numbers last year playing with a herniated disc.

    When I think of Bynum taking plays and games off and openly admitting it while Dwight is still putting up the numbers he did with an injury that ultimately required surgery and in a toxic, destructive environment . . . I think there is no doubt the sort of heart and work ethic Dwight is going to bring to our team.

    Hope all of this is a bit reassuring.
    No way in they trade Bynum - who is about to blow up - without assurances that D12 will be fine long term.

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    El - the Lakers did their homework. From world famous LG:

    No way in they trade Bynum - who is about to blow up - without assurances that D12 will be fine long term.
    Bull . Lakers always seem to get whoever the they want! Then I always have to hear the Spurs are getting a second round draft pick, or some player that was good like 10 years ago.It's all bull . For once I'd like to hear the Spurs got someone in the midst of they're prime, another star player. Seems like it'll never happen tbh.

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    This Lakers team is a monster,........ in 2009.
    Age, injuries, and poor perimeter defense will be the biggest problem for this team. They are primed to be ousted by a jump shooting, lower seed. On offense, teams will go at Nash. On defense, they will foul Howard to keep the offense out of sync. I also will be shocked if Nash can make it through the entire season. Gasol will be lost in the shuffle. The final question is how will they convince Kobe to take less than 20 contested shots a game?
    You are reaching El, but I don't blame you.

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    Bull . Lakers always seem to get whoever the they want! Then I always have to hear the Spurs are getting a second round draft pick, or some player that was good like 10 years ago.It's all bull . For once I'd like to hear the Spurs got someone in the midst of they're prime, another star player. Seems like it'll never happen tbh.

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    You are reaching El, but I don't blame you.
    i don't understand why the nuggets facilitated this trade. sure they get a little bit better, but they just created another monster they have to play every playoffs. no chance in they will be able to get past the lakers. why even better your team if you make your conference rival even stronger? there's no point, they will still be a second round exit.

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    You ers have good eidetic memories or you bookmark a ton of posts. I read good or funny posts, leave them and then forget where they were posted.

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    You ers have good eidetic memories or you bookmark a ton of posts. I read good or funny posts, leave them and then forget where they were posted.
    I'm just going backwards through this thread:

    http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202099

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    Bull . Lakers always seem to get whoever the they want! Then I always have to hear the Spurs are getting a second round draft pick, or some player that was good like 10 years ago.It's all bull . For once I'd like to hear the Spurs got someone in the midst of they're prime, another star player. Seems like it'll never happen tbh.
    I thought you guys should have traded TD after 2007 and try to reload like the Lakers did with Shaq. Sure the Lakers sucked until Pau came, but in hindsight it was the right thing to do: They may have squeezed another le out of Shaq/Kobe, but I doubt it.

    Trade TD and build around TP and Manu like the Lakers did with Kobe. Would it pan out like it did for the Lakers? Who knows, but instead, you guys decided to re-up TD for 3 more years out of loyalty. What happens after he finally retires? Who do you build around?

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    I thought you guys should have traded TD after 2007 and try to reload like the Lakers did with Shaq. Sure the Lakers sucked until Pau came, but in hindsight it was the right thing to do: They may have squeezed another le out of Shaq/Kobe, but I doubt it.

    Trade TD and build around TP and Manu like the Lakers did with Kobe. Would it pan out like it did for the Lakers? Who knows, but instead, you guys decided to re-up TD for 3 more years out of loyalty. What happens after he finally retires? Who do you build around?
    they might as well had sent him to the rockets and I don't buy the whole people going to Lakers cause they grew up watching them because Magic should have sent Howard to whoever would have taken him who would have given them the best deal, Howard didn't walk away like Shaq did, he was traded there and they didn't bring in Bynum. This trade makes no sense and the 1st round picks according to Stephen A. are protectd, what is that. This screams dumb and stupid which leaves me assking, what is really going on behind the scenes. No one makes this deal even a novice could have done a better deal but major execs did this, something stinks as always, within sports.

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    i don't understand why the nuggets facilitated this trade. sure they get a little bit better, but they just created another monster they have to play every playoffs. no chance in they will be able to get past the lakers. why even better your team if you make your conference rival even stronger? there's no point, they will still be a second round exit.
    The Nuggs will be at least a 5-seed this year, but I agree with you here. I'm not complaining though.

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    anyways, back to sleeping dogs, tbh

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    The Nuggs will be at least a 5-seed this year, but I agree with you here. I'm not complaining though.
    Iguodala gives them a great shot to get another 2-4 home playoff games by making them a good bet to reach the second round. Especially when old teams like the Spurs and Mavs could fall off the cliff at any time and with the Grizzlies backpedaling and the Clippers constantly injured.

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    But let me enjoy having Kobe, Pau, Nash and Dwight on one team
    Pretty enjoyable season, huh?

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    I don't really give a if LA got Howard. Our team is mainly based on perimeter shooting anyway. The only guy who drives the paint is Parker. LA has no one who can keep up with our perimeter players. I wouldn't be surprised if we swept them next season.
    Damn, GNSF was right?

    I'll never doubt upstairs again.

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    I don't really give a if LA got Howard. Our team is mainly based on perimeter shooting anyway. The only guy who drives the paint is Parker. LA has no one who can keep up with our perimeter players. I wouldn't be surprised if we swept them next season.
    BB ting on Venti Quattro

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    I don't really give a if LA got Howard. Our team is mainly based on perimeter shooting anyway. The only guy who drives the paint is Parker. LA has no one who can keep up with our perimeter players. I wouldn't be surprised if we swept them next season.

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    Basestradamus with the goods

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