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Holy crap the west is stacked now. Not just the Lakers, but the Nuggets also improved themselves dramatically with Iggy now on their roster.
Our beloved Spurs, if we want them to be able to keep up with this compe ion, we're going to need to add something new. Bring in a BIG X-factor that gives us a chance. I am talking Greg Oden.
Yeah yeah, I know, hes more fragile than glass and we've discussed this scenario a billion times, but honestly now, with the bolstering of the west, our roster that has effectively stayed the same (except for the addition of De Colo). Our guards and small forwards are great, but we cannot stop ignoring our bigs anymore. Timmy is getting old. Splitter is good, but not a huge game changers (at least not yet), and Diaw is good as well, but not great.
Blair and Bonner? You know the whole story. They aren't enough for us anymore. Absolutely useless in the playoffs. It's time to take a chance and sign a big that has unimaginable potential if he can stay healthy. Greg Oden likely had one of the worst possible training staffs in Portland (just look at their history with bigs). I'm not at all certain, but perhaps a change of scenery, a better training staff, and a better organization overall, maybe. Just Maybe. Pop can work his magic and present to the league a devastating weapon in Greg Oden.
With our bigs situation hovering around average (we have to be realistic), what do we have to lose?
I still believe.
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I read it.Holy crap the west is stacked now. Not just the Lakers, but the Nuggets also improved themselves dramatically with Iggy now on their roster.
Our beloved Spurs, if we want them to be able to keep up with this compe ion, we're going to need to add something new. Bring in a BIG X-factor that gives us a chance. I am talking Greg Oden.
Yeah yeah, I know, hes more fragile than glass and we've discussed this scenario a billion times, but honestly now, with the bolstering of the west, our roster that has effectively stayed the same (except for the addition of De Colo). Our guards and small forwards are great, but we cannot stop ignoring our bigs anymore. Timmy is getting old. Splitter is good, but not a huge game changers (at least not yet), and Diaw is good as well, but not great.
Blair and Bonner? You know the whole story. They aren't enough for us anymore. Absolutely useless in the playoffs. It's time to take a chance and sign a big that has unimaginable potential if he can stay healthy. Greg Oden likely had one of the worst possible training staffs in Portland (just look at their history with bigs). I'm not at all certain, but perhaps a change of scenery, a better training staff, and a better organization overall, maybe. Just Maybe. Pop can work his magic and present to the league a devastating weapon in Greg Oden.
With our bigs situation hovering around average (we have to be realistic), what do we have to lose?
I still believe.
Pop is not a magical-healer, Oden is not the answer.
and tbh he must stay healthy which is the complicated part . . .
More fragile than glass? He's more fragile than water! Seriously, the spurs guards are not "great". Good? Very good? Sure...but not great. Imo it wasn't the bigs that faultered. We were going up against superior guards/forwards and would have seen it show up even more so In the finals. They need a superstar type player and I don't see how? Greg oden as the answer....lol
Bring him! im sure he wants way more than he is worth.
I think we should just feed Diaw with some more food and get him up to 280 pounds so that he can hold his ground against Dwight.
That wouldn't be hard. Apparantly that fat slob is upto 265 already...
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I actually don't think it's a bad idea. I heard the portland medical staff is the pits and they forced him out there before he was ready, injuring him again. You never know, with proper medicine and the rest he's had, it might actually work out. This could definitely be a case where the benefits outweigh the risk. What if it did work out? The spurs pickup a number one draft pick for a song and once again best the nba at the free agent game. Or they cut him and everyone knows that he really is done.
whats his health status like? we dont need him to be jumping up and down on defense for rebs, dunking or blocking shots.....
he could still play even without a vertical, his size clogs up the lane...can he still run up and down though?
If he wants to come back... then take the cheap risk. It's not like there's any alternative free agent center. Him just standing there is better defense than Blair or Bonner.
No
Bill Walton and Ilgauskas are two bigs that were always hurt and still were productive.
I absolutely would sign him for the right price.
I'm conflicted, I like Oden and think he would worth taking a risk on that said where/when would he play? He's not mobile enough to be a power forward. Splitter is a center who might be able to eat some power forward minutes, Duncan is at this point a center. Oden with questionable knees isn't really all that likely to be given the chance to displace Splitter as center back-up. I don't see that many match-ups where Splitter is preferable to having Diaw and Bonner during the regular season at PF for extended minutes.
So essentially you would be paying 1.3 mill to Oden as a gamble to see if with a season of regular practice, garbage minutes, and rehab if he can get into good enough shape and comfortable enough on his reconstructed knees to be a high level back-up in a couple of years.
If the spurs were in rebuilding mode right now sure, but it appears that the team is instead choosing to go for a low odds run on a ring. In that all Oden really provides is a 3rd center for 6 fouls against the grizz and the lake show.
i must be crazy, but i agree.
If he seems to be healed and not overpriced, I don't see why not consider Oden. The Spurs already have Manu and Tim locked up, so they're not going to fully rebuild just yet anyway. Rebuilding can begin at any time, so signing Oden to a 1 year contract if he's healthy is something I would definitely support.
Tbh, I was on the "sign Greg Oden and stash him away until he's actually ready to play" bandwagon for 2 years now.
Blazers kept rushing him back, just like the Rockets rushed back Yao too fast.
We have enough depth to sign him and let him recover. And yes, it is worth the risk. If anyone disagrees. . .explain to us then all the great big men of Oden's potential that we'll be getting instead. Because otherwise Blatche seems like the best guy we could possibly add without making a terrible trade.
If he's at a fair price given his injury history, I don't really think there's much risk at all. In 1-2 years this team will have all the salary room it needs with Manu and Tim retired. If it doesn't go well with Oden...well, there isn't anything else that would have been much better.
Oden is a center. Spurs need a PF.
I agree with Bruno. We need a PF. But should Blair gets moved then we could sign Oden for min. Not sold on Blatche or Oden, but for a short term fix, either would work. A contract for Blatche would have to be guaranteed whereas Oden might take a NG contract to try to return to the NBA. I think all contracts become guaranteed on January 10th. We could have 3 months to see if Oden is healing or if he is going to lay down again. Then he could be waived without a problem if he is not going to make it.
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I disagree with Bruno. Sure, we need an all-star PF who can do all the things Duncan used to do (and still does some would argue, myself included), but that is difficult given the Spurs' current cap space, low pecking-order in desired destinations by free agents, and perennial low draft picks. We also recently re-signed Boris Diaw, who has the range and skills of a PF, even if he's not aggressive enough at the point of attack.
What this team NEEDS is more defense. This team NEEDS length inside the paint. This team NEEDS shot-blocking ability (See: Mavericks, Dallas for evidence of what can happen before, during and after an elite defender joins, then leaves your team.) This team NEEDS a strong interior defender who can pair with our now-defensively-strong perimeter players in Green and Kawhi. This team NEEDS a 7ft Dejuan Blair. If Timmy still plays PF next to a 6ft 6 center, he most certainly can continue to play PF next to a 7ft center.
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