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Oh ok. Yeah that's really high. Too bad the Dems don't want to allow you to buy across state lines.
No, I was talking the circa $900/mo...
Oh ok. Yeah that's really high. Too bad the Dems don't want to allow you to buy across state lines.
yeah, much cheaper in philly too... that said, wife has a pre-existing condition, so i doubt we would qualify for any cheap deal even after 2014...
Yet he chose a running mate whose economic plan involves increasing the deficit by $4 trillion over the next ten years, and whose idea for balancing the budget just kicks the can down the road for the next thirty years, tbh... that plan makes no significant cuts, and only serves to funnel money otherwise going to social programs to the military instead, when we need to instead be ending our unaffordable "world police" act...
States have regulated health and car insurance for decades.
Along credit card business across state line allows the cc companies to ignore state anti-usury laws and charge 24%/year.
Romney falling behind in polls. Will Paul Ryan help?
Recent polls have Mitt Romney slipping behind President Obama – including among men and suburbanites. Running mate Paul Ryan could help, but so far he's largely unknown to voters.
The most recent CNN/ORC International poll, taken a few days before Saturday’s announcement, gives Mr. Ryan a 27-19 favorable/unfavorable rating with a whopping 54 percent saying they’re unsure or have never heard of him.
A Fox News poll has Obama ahead by nine points (49-40 percent). Reuters/Ipsos and CNN/ORC give Obama a seven-point lead – 49-42 percent and 52-45 percent respectively.
Still, the latest Monitor/TIPP poll shows a widening lead for Obama.
A survey of 828 registered voters has Obama ahead 46-39 percent. A month earlier, the Monitor/TIPP poll showed them virtually even.
Within the most recent numbers there are some interesting demographic highlights.
Romney has lost his advantage among men (who now favor Obama 47-41 percent), and he’s seen his standing among independents go from a three-point advantage to a five-point deficit. Similarly, Romney has lost his advantage among suburban voters.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Electio...=Google+Reader
Tells you how re ed American voters are to not know possibly the most important assh... person in congress.
Apparently you goobers don't get it.
Ryan is not the potential POTUS.
Whatever plan he may have proposed previously is not necessarily the plan of the Republican nominee for POTUS.
DUHHHHHH
Well, that's why I was saying I expect Mitt to run away from the Medicare portion of the "plan" as fast as possible... some people here disagree he can do that.
That does not change the fact that the plan he introduced, and Romney backed, did not specify the tax loopholes he was proposing to close in order to pay for his proposed tax cuts. Are you willing to give up your mortgage interest deduction?
But he ran towards it
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/r...215906440.html
you have to wonder if Mitt read Ryan's plan at all, tbh
What do you want to see happen with medicare? Obama's plan is to do nothing.
I'd like to see it expanded to everyone and have this Obamacare tripe thrown in the garbage. What Ryan proposes is the worst-case: I pay for the Baby Boomers' Medicare and I get nothing worthwhile back from it when I hit 65.
Make that 67...
Not that I think universal healthcare is realistic when the Democrats have become the Republicans and the Republicans have become the John Birch Society.
Ryans plan is essentially to do away with the partial National Health Insurance model of medicare and replace it with essentially a partial Bismarck model. I don't know if that would be better, worse, the same but clearly medicare isn't going to work as is.
Funny thing to me is the GOP proposals don't go all the way to a universal healthcare plan but they do take us closer than what the Dems have done. Health insurance across state lines thus federal regulation of health insurance, vouchers for seniors and those that cannot afford health insurance. Do those things and toss in a mandate and we're freakin Germany.
Not even close. Germany's healthcare system is nonprofit.
So, it's still the same basic model. We have plenty of non profit health insurance. If health insurance were opened up across states lines and non profits were cheaper and provided the a same or better coverage then they would come to dominate the market.
What exactly is the argument against buying health insurance across state lines? I know the left opposes it but I've never heard their reasoning as to why they oppose it.
uh what? That part would have to come from the democrats obviously.
I don't oppose Obamacare because of the mandate. I oppose it because it just adds another layer of mess on top of the mess of a system we currently have.
It's not the same model at all. Germany uses strict price controls to deal with cost.
The sickness funds negotiate prices and fees with medical clinics and hospitals in a method consistent with price controls laid out by the government. The result of these negotiations is published in an online database that details the extent of medical coverage and fees associated with various procedures. Physicians collect their fees directly from the sickness funds and other services are paid for as they are administered.
Their system is closer to the VA, which also negotiates and sets strict prices for what they cover.
uh? as in Germany is a completely different system, which actually addresses cost.
I don't like Obamacare because it doesn't address cost, which is the major factor here. Neither does the Ryan plan.
I should add that in Germany you can also purchase additional private insurance if you want different/better/concierge service and you can afford it.
That's why I said "thus federal regulation of health insurance". I'm not saying the GOP plan is the Bismarck model, what I'm saying is that that is where I think it would ultimately lead if we went down that path. Assuming future democratic administrations added the parts the republicans would oppose.
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