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The "voter fraud" issue is just a way for the GOP to counter Obama's vastly superior ground game. They realized early on it was going to be a tough election for them because they had a weak field of candidates.
How the GOP Plans to Block the Black Vote
I can’t identify too many threads that connect every single election I’ve ever covered. But one feature has been a constant through every election I’ve seen up close, from New York City Council elections to mayor to governor to senator to president: efforts to suppress the black vote, and, often enough, the Latino vote. I’ve seen the fliers, heard the robocalls, been at the polling places with the mysterious malfunctioning machines. No one ever knows exactly who does these things, and yet everyone generally knows. Republicans. And now we may be getting some proof. Former Florida GOP chairman Jim Greer said for the first time on national television Thursday—to Al Sharpton, no less!—that his party is up to its neck in denying citizens the right to vote.
Greer—and I should say up front he’s under indictment; more on that later—was deposed by lawyers for the state GOP in late May for a civil case that will likely be heard after his criminal trial. He was specific. At a December 2009 meeting, “the political consultants and staff were talking about voter suppression and keeping blacks from voting.” They also discussed—and this is lovely—how “minority-outreach programs were not fit for the Republican Party.” But with Sharpton, he really cut loose: “There’s no doubt that what the Republican-led legislature in Florida and Governor Scott are trying to do is make sure the Republican Party has an advantage in this upcoming election by reducing early voting and putting roadblocks up for potential voters, Latinos, African-Americans to register and then to exercise their right to vote. There’s no doubt. I was in the room. It’s part of the strategy.”
He also shot down the rationale for the new Florida law, this ginned-up “voter fraud” business: “In three and a half years as chairman in Florida, I never had one meeting where voter fraud was discussed as a real issue effecting elections. Never one time...It’s a marketing tool. That’s clearly what it is. There’s no validity to it. We never had issues with it. The main purpose behind it is to make sure that what happened in 2008 never happens again.”
http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...=Cheat%20Sheet
The "voter fraud" issue is just a way for the GOP to counter Obama's vastly superior ground game. They realized early on it was going to be a tough election for them because they had a weak field of candidates.
Meh.
Democrats assertion that their voters are too stupid or lazy to get a free ID is ing hilarious...
Meh, Republicans' assertion that there is massive voter fraud is ing hilarious.
illegals vote we already know this
I personally don't have a problem with ID laws if enacted well in advance of elections, they're well publicized to let citizens know about the requirements, and there's a concerted effort from government to ensure all citizens have access to the required do entation, whatever that might be.
Obviously, the followup is decrying "ID fraud!", but oh well...
Yes. You are a ing hack of the worst order.And, I'm called a partisan hack.
For the second time, in just over a decade, Democrats are suing the a State to suppress military votes and this is what you raise in comparison?
Besides, people who need to be called before they cast their vote should just stay home...they haven't been paying attention to the issues.
You believe and argue anything on an almost purely emotional basis, like all conservative hacks who couldn't think their way out of a paper bag.
You pull up bull like this, as if one ing pissant instance of voter fraud is worth putting up barriers to millions of legitimate voters, whose only crime is to have the nerve to vote for the party that you don't support.
You ing hypocritical, self-serving, dishonest, sack of .
I have little problem with voter ID per se.
The thing that ing enrages me to no end is that the people and Republican politicians pushign this do not give a flying about about voter fraud.
They only care about surpressing Democratic voters.
Anybody who thinks otherwise is a dupe of the lowest order.
It is a ty, cynical political manuever, period.
Another strawman and oversimplification.
The worst kind of intellectual rot, but par for the course in conservative thinking.
Do you have anything better?
^well there is proof that illegals vote so no matter what you think i'm glad they are doing it. i still maintain that i've never known anyone in my life who did not have a valid form of ID. you need one to open a bank account, write a check, get welfare, drive, travel, or do pretty much anything, so why is it suddenly a big deal if you need one to vote? it makes sense for obvious reasons.
and for you leftists, going around to the ghettos on election day and offering people who don't know what's going on free popeyes in exchange for their vote is wrong.
I do not give a if a few illegal immigrants MIGHT vote in any given election.
This is somethign with a huge cost and next to no benefit.
It only makes sense if you are a dumb who is more worried about "illegals" than actually spending resources on real problems.
This is a not a serious problem by any stretch of the imagination, but it has a cynically manufactured "solution" that shockingly benefits one party over another.
I don't disagree with the fact that ants tend to get into food at picnics, but I am not tossing tactical nukes on anthills to solve it.
Yes, some tiny minority of illegal immigrants vote. WHO ING CARES?
Yes, some tiny minority of felons vote. WHO ING CARES?
WE ALREADY HAVE LAWS AGAINST VOTER FRAUD.
The cost is far more than any real benefit.
Sorry you have gotten suckered by the assholes who are using you to make themselves stronger politically.
Or maybe you like being a dupe... I dunno.
so stop yelling and let's enforce them.
the problem is, people tend to be out of touch with the illegal immigrant problem. we heard the amnesty for young illegals would only affect 800,000. it's already in the millions of applications.
if you're not responsible enough to have a valid form of ID, then you shouldn't be allowed to vote. dems just want to allow illegals to vote as well as hitting up the ghettos and barrios on election day to offer free popeyes and tacos coupons in exchange for a vote. i say that.
Popeye's and taco coupons? Could you be any more racist?
dude, they've been sending out assholes into the ghettos with voter registration ballots and coercing people who don't know what the is going on for some time now. if you have to have your hand held and lead to the polls, you shouldn't be voting anyway. i say go ahead with the plan, i've still yet to meet a single person who didn't have an ID.
This statement is so based on stupidity it's not even funny.
First of all there are clear statistics of people that do not have IDs. Your personal anecdotes do not paint the picture of demographics as a whole. For example, there are many on the East Coast that do not have driver's licenses because they do not need one.
this should be obvious. The percentage of minorities that do not have IDs is more than double that of whites. It's not exactly a new concept that the GOP discourages minorities from voting.
Further, how many times have you gone into the ballot box and voted for someone with no idea who they are except that their column had 'Republican' on it?
There is more than one way to hold a hand.
You're completely right... , just look at how they've tried to screw over the Ron Paul wing of their own party, tbh... so why would we expect the GOP to actually care about voter fraud?
That being said, it's the same line of thinking as why the Democrats want amnesty.... as part of their pandering platform, they love to kiss the asses of everyone who crosses the border illegally, hoping they'll vote Democrat with the thought that it's the only way they'll get to stay here, tbh...
Well that and a large portion of the democratic base is latin american. Of course they want to let their friends and families off the hook.
do the amnesty provisions even grant suffrage?
Is it?
Democrats love the stupid voters. I mean, who else is stupid enough to vote for them?
Didn't you say you voted Democrat in the past?
I agree. This is a cost of government that needs to be used so we can have a better handle of voting, and lay to rest the idea of fraud. At no time, should it be done in a way that keeps legal voters from voting. Ease into such a system over a few years before locking it in place.
wake up face, they still need one to write a check or do anything else.
ive said it once and i maintain, if you need some leftist operative to come into your hood/barrio and remind you that it's election time and hand you a ballot then you don't need to be voting in the first place. anyone who can take the minimal time and responsibility to register is fully capable of acquiring an ID in the same way. you can get one that's not even a valid driver's license just made to look like one and it will do the same thing.
In This Great Country Of Ours, there 10Ms of (poor) people who lives on the margins. Obviously the right wing assholes here don't know them, and think they should should be denied the vote.
And another 18% that do still use non-traditional banking services like pawn shops and payday lenders, according to FDIC survey.
17 million Americans have no bank account
That was 3 years ago of Banksters Great Depression. Very probably a few M more are living week to week with no need to waste dollars on bank fees.
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