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    partisan politics explain everything? trenchant.

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    California is the mecca for progressive policies and look what it has done to their economy.
    I'd probably go with Scandinavian countries for mecca status. How are they doing?

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    I'd probably go with Scandinavian countries for mecca status. How are they doing?
    Meh, the combined economies of Sweden, Norway, and Denmark are about the same as Texas' economy.

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    partisan politics explain everything? trenchant.
    It's simple. If you make it a pain in the ass to do business in your state (by heavy taxation and regulation), companies will go elsewhere.

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    I wasn't aware companies were fleeing New York and California en masse. I don't suppose you have any evidence of this happening.

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    California is the mecca for progressive policies and look what it has done to their economy. Contrast that with Texas.
    still #1 economy in the country... New York is pretty blue too, and how's it doing compared to Texas?

    Apparently, party colors alone don't tell the whole story. I know, shocking!.

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    Meh, the combined economies of Sweden, Norway, and Denmark are about the same as Texas' economy.
    But how are they doing as the meccas of progressive policies, Darrin?

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    But how are they doing as the meccas of progressive policies, Darrin?

    When you have an apples-apples comparison, let me know.

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    I wasn't aware companies were fleeing New York and California en masse. I don't suppose you have any evidence of this happening.

    still #1 economy in the country... New York is pretty blue too, and how's it doing compared to Texas?

    Apparently, party colors alone don't tell the whole story. I know, shocking!.


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    Meh, the combined economies of Sweden, Norway, and Denmark are about the same as Texas' economy.
    sweden 9.5 M people,

    norway 6 M

    denmark 5.5
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    21 M

    now look up the GDP and/or income per capita and get back to us how HUGE govt/social democracies are so much worse than TX govt.

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    thanks, TB

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    When you have an apples-apples comparison, let me know.
    I wasn't asking for a comparison of anything, Darrin.

    I was asking how these meccas of progressive policies were doing.

    I know you're scared.

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    Another look....

    Yep they're leaving. And yep, they're being replaced.

    http://www.ecovote.org/blog/studies-...ing-california

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    so, not so simple. things seldom are. appreciate the knock on post.

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    Superb find, E-N.

    I just regret the thread being hijacked into another 'Texas vs. California' battle.

    for god's sake, I just wish Texas would go ahead and secede. I'm sick of the chauvinism.

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    California is the mecca for progressive policies and look what it has done to their economy. Contrast that with Texas.
    a misguided referendum system coupled with the need for a 2/3 majority on budgets is why cali is ed. Republicans (while even though a perpetual minority) are as responsible for those problems as the mul ude of left-wing nutjobs.

    Extremism is the norm in the golden state, on both sides, due to one of the worst redistricting jobs in our country.

    I will grant you that large special interest groups, mostly liberal, have also done their fair share of damage (service workers/teachers/etc).

    But, your argument is still re ed

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    I wasn't aware companies were fleeing New York and California en masse.
    It's been 3 years since I was living in Cali, but I can tell you with certainty that many businesses, especially manufacturing, were fleeing in the late 2000's, to the point that Oregon and Nevada were running ads in the state trying to lure companies away.

    Toyota closed their plant in the East Bay, meaning there are no longer any large car manufacturing operations in the whole state (IIRC)

    , the Lighting company I worked for in the mid 2000's closed up shop and moved to NC.

    That's just off the top of my head.

    Couldn't tell you about New York

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    don't doubt it, but Darrin has a studied preference for PFA analysis. (TB has two relevant posts upstream.)

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    don't doubt it, but Darrin has a studied preference for PFA analysis. (TB has two relevant posts upstream.)
    I know, lol

    didn't see the previous posts that were relevant...thanks

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    I'd like an explanation as to how cutting trillions in spending while reducing taxes will suddenly " make the economy grow "..
    Wow, I see idiots like Paul Ryan have roped in another sucker, tbh...

    Thinking that sequestrations are the same thing as spending cuts

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    Govts dont create wealth, they only extract it.

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    Govts dont create wealth, they only extract it.
    bull

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    Please then, explain how government creates wealth.

    This should be good... hearing a -bot- version...

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