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    UPDATE: The Washington Post now reports, via a statement from NOAA spokesman Scott Smullen, that the original solicitation contained a “clerical error” and that the “solicitation for ammunition and targets for the NOAA Fisheries Office of Law Enforcement mistakenly identified NOAA’s National Weather Service as the requesting office.” This still doesn’t explain why hollow point bullets, designed to cause maximum organ damage, are needed for shooting at paper targets. Was the delivery of the bullets to the NWS a cover for them being transferred somewhere else? It’s entirely possible given the sordid history of Fast and Furious, a federal government program under which guns were sent directly to Mexican drug cartels.

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    Weather Weapons.

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    The reason LEOs use HPs is that the FMJ and flat tips tend to over penetrate and become a liability for bystanders. Hollow points mushroom and deliver maximum kinetic energy to the target area (vitals) and most often remain inside the target. No one is shooting people to just poke ventilation holes in them.

    In combat, the .223 FMJ would pop holes in the enemy and the enemy would keep coming. They have switched to hollow point rounds on many of their teams and they drop the target now more quickly than before.

    There's nothing that says they are going to shoot paper targets with hollow point rounds. It's likely they are ordering supplies and they need more paper targets.

    Game Wardens are LEOs and they need sidearms.

    Gun ignorant people crack me up when they start trying to use gun terminology and have no idea what any of it means. The concept that shooting someone can be less aggressive based on the round is laughable at best, mostly it's naive.

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    weather weapons? more HAARP bull ?
    Maybe we should start calling the trolls, or the conspiracy therorists...

    Haarpies!

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    The reason LEOs use HPs is that the FMJ and flat tips tend to over penetrate and become a liability for bystanders. Hollow points mushroom and deliver maximum kinetic energy to the target area (vitals) and most often remain inside the target. No one is shooting people to just poke ventilation holes in them.

    In combat, the .223 FMJ would pop holes in the enemy and the enemy would keep coming. They have switched to hollow point rounds on many of their teams and they drop the target now more quickly than before.

    There's nothing that says they are going to shoot paper targets with hollow point rounds. It's likely they are ordering supplies and they need more paper targets.

    Game Wardens are LEOs and they need sidearms.

    Gun ignorant people crack me up when they start trying to use gun terminology and have no idea what any of it means. The concept that shooting someone can be less aggressive based on the round is laughable at best, mostly it's naive.
    Actually, the original theory behind shooting FMJ's in a battlefield situation is that they WANTED to wound and not kill. It takes the recipient of the round out of action and also takes one or two able bodied opponents out of the action to carry/transport/take care the wounded soldier.

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