bird has 3 rings...
Now that Lebron finally got his ring, does he finally overtake Larry Legend as the best small forward of all-time, or does Larry still have that distinction?
Discuss
With or without ring, I take Bird
Fun fact : both are actually left handed
they shoot right..
sherlock?
Didnt watch Bird tbh, but Ill take King James. Once his career is over the King will at the very least be the 2nd GOAT.
Didnt watch Bird but still going with James ?
Lebron is the complete package. Bird only played on one side of the court.![]()
Bird's career has still clearly been better.
If LeBron won in Cleveland before going to Miami, then he'd have a much better argument right now.
LeBron's best argument WOULD have been: Larry Bird had tons of help, so his rings don't mean as much as LeBron's. . .
But whoops. LeBron went to Miami to play with Wade and Bosh. LeBron pretty much killed his only chance of getting put above people with less rings. Now he absolutely can't be put above MJ, Bird, Magic, etc, unless he at LEAST ties them in rings.
rings are the most overrated metric of greatness, tbh..
Bird's career is currently better, he ranks higher on the all-time list..
However, as a peak player, Lebron is better..only Jordan is clearly ahead of Lebron, from a peak perspective..
Depends on generation you ask I think. Most older blokes would probably say Larry but today's supporters probably LeBron.
They both could score, pass and rebound. I'd say Bird was a more versatile scorer, but Lebron defends better.
Bird has the edge for being a much better leader, but that can change if LBJ leads his team to more les.
If LeBron continues to win while playing like he is now, he's definitely taking the top SF spot.
Yeah, people who didn't witness Larry bird are going to have a hard time making a case for him, but le is a far more superior athlete
Only a matter of time. LeBron will be the best SF of all time when it's said and done. The sky is the limit for him.
Oh yeah cause clearly Jordans "peak" year with an average of 50 points per game, 25 rebounds per game, and 2.5 assits per game outshines Brons average of 30 points per game, 12 rebounds per game, and 11 assists per game.
Oh wait...![]()
Last edited by cobbler; 08-15-2012 at 04:10 AM.
LeClutch, aka LeClass, aka LeGold, aka Ring James, aka Bron, aka the Kang, any day over Larry Bird, tbh....
I agree.
Only Jordan? Did you watch KAJ in his prime?
Cobbler makes a good point too.
Wilt and Kareem arguably had better peak performances than Jordan and Lebron.
Those 4 have had the best peak performances.
I'd take prime Bird over prime James. Anyone who says otherwise is foolish.
Is the argument who's had the better career or who's the better player? LeBron right now is capable of some pretty incredible things.
Bird s on Lebron
It's not even up for debate, even if Birdie himself is a fan of Lebron
Lebron still s on Kobe though
KAJ probably had the scariest peak and Shaq was pretty close in his MVP season. Jordan is not clearly ahead. Lebron put up some scary number with such ease.
From a fan's perspective, Lebron is the best player since Jordan. Kobe is a close second and i think most of them (apart from non delusional ones) would agree.
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