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    Im with DoK. I don't do the lesser of two evil thing. If im not inspired I see no reason to vote. It all ends up being the same crap overall anyways despite what they "campaign & promise" so it's all semantics when it comes to the two party bs anyways. They end up dealing with the same stupid issues over and over and nothing changes.

    Until there is a system where your vote actually matters (lol electoral college) & until there is an opportunity for an agent of change, I'm not voting.
    Idk what your politics are, but in my case, the few things the modern day Democratic party and Republican party agree on are things I disagree with them on. My ideal candidate would want the following things:


    • Raise the Cap gains tax to 25%
    • Raise the highest income tax bracket to a 40% rate
    • sharply cut military spending
    • sharply cut health care spending for 65+ YO people
    • sharply increase education spending so more people have the opportunities I was born with and did nothing to earn
    • legalize all drugs and cut off publicly funded rehab for addicts
    • tax the out of tobacco and other drugs
    • bring back trade tariffs
    • regulate the out of who's eligible to receive welfare (drug tests, etc.)

    No candidate remotely agrees with most of that.

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    And I'm not saying "I won't vote!" as if that's gonna make some sort of a statement. I'm simply saying that it's no longer worth it to me as all candidates do nothing but pander to "swing voters" these days where there's no difference between the two. The thread was asking who I'm gonna vote for and I answered.

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    This makes no sense. The popular vote would mean 1 vote = 1 vote. Not one vote in Ohio = 20 votes in Texas.
    This.

    My vote in Texas should count the same as Nono's vote in Jersey, but the sad fact is that neither of them matter at all. So what's my incentive to register my opinion on who I would like to govern this country?

    Give everyone equal, and meaningful voice.

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    TARP,stimulus and auto bailout "yea" votes show his bona fides there.
    Did any GOP in the house vote for the stimulus? Maybe my memory sucks.

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    Nah he just called it a monstrosity then tried to get the money from it into his state as much as possible. Very firm on is principles.

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    This makes no sense. The popular vote would mean 1 vote = 1 vote. Not one vote in Ohio = 20 votes in Texas. The electoral college basically rewards certain states with above average populations and demographics that make them swing states.

    If Michign isn't a swing state, there's probably no auto bailout. Thats a pretty damn huge influence. There's no doubt that in a popular vote system that places like NYC and Los Angeles would get more attention than they would now but thats only because they've been compltely marginalized now. You seem to think that its somehow fair and equitable that farmers in Iowa get far more attention than the two largest cities in our nation and that blows my mind.

    It is undeniable that a popular vote system makes each person's vote equal regardless of where they live. The system should not be based off of campaigning and of of equality.
    The existence of the senate really destroys the idea of everyone's vote being equal also. It's asinine that boundary lines are given representation.

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    Did any GOP in the house vote for the stimulus? Maybe my memory sucks.
    Which one, dubya or barry's?

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    At any rate, it would be Yes for dubya, No for Barry.... as you would expect.

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    Which one, dubya or barry's?
    The one that was over 700 billion -- not 150.

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    I'm voting Obama, even though the vote is essentially meaningless in my state (Alabama). While I haven't been satisfied with everything he did, when put into context I think he's done an ok job. I'm not going to find someone I agree with 100% unless I'm running myself. My biggest beef with Obama has been his caving on the health care and tax issue.

    I don't think this country can take another dose of hardcore supply side policy. The budget is already broken thanks to the Bush years, and if Romney gets his way with a 20% across the board tax cut, I think the damage will not be fixable. I am in favor of all tax rates returning to Clinton era levels, and Obama says he'll at least let the top rates go back up, so that is the closest option I have.

    I disagree with the Republican's seemingly anti-minority stances on nearly every issue, but as a white person (of Jewish descent) they don't affect me personally. The GOP's economic policy is what prevents me from even considering them as an option. As long as they back this nonsense economic theory that is slowly destroying our country, I can not vote for one of their candidates.

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    The one that was over 700 billion -- not 150.
    Well, he also voted for Medicare Part D, an entirely unfunded program, which will cost more than either, or the wars, which already cost more than both combined.

    I guess we need to redefine what 'fiscal conservative' really means.

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    I disagree with the Republican's seemingly anti-minority stances on nearly every issue, but as a white person (of Jewish descent) they don't affect me personally. The GOP's economic policy is what prevents me from even considering them as an option. As long as they back this nonsense economic theory that is slowly destroying our country, I can not vote for one of their candidates.
    you know what's really good for minorities? Lower standards and welfare. Makes people proud.

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    The existence of the senate really destroys the idea of everyone's vote being equal also. It's asinine that boundary lines are given representation.
    Those "boundary lines" are called states, which have their own rights and deserve equal representation in the laws that govern the Union. You're also forgetting that Congress is bicameral and the House, which shares the legislative responsibility, is really where the voter is truly represented.

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    3rd party candidate, probably Gary Johnson

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    Because I'm in Texas, I am voting third party in the hopes that a third party will get enough of the vote to participate more significantly in future campaigns. I would vote for Obama if I was in a state where it would be close.

    All told I believe the country will be in pretty much the exact same situation in four years with one President as it would have been with the other, because I don't believe the President amounts to any more than a talking head and a distraction right now. He's not the one running things.

    So given that job description I am more likely to vote for the talking head that at least appeals, however minimally, to a more progressive and intellectual worldview. And while I hesitate to ever call Obama's rhetoric intellectual, it comes a lot closer than anything I've heard from a Republican Presidential nominee in years. The Republican mantle is one of stubborn and proud ignorance and I could never vote for anyone who appeals to people on that level.

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    Idk what your politics are, but in my case, the few things the modern day Democratic party and Republican party agree on are things I disagree with them on. My ideal candidate would want the following things:


    • Raise the Cap gains tax to 25%
    • Raise the highest income tax bracket to a 40% rate
    • sharply cut military spending
    • sharply cut health care spending for 65+ YO people
    • sharply increase education spending so more people have the opportunities I was born with and did nothing to earn
    • legalize all drugs and cut off publicly funded rehab for addicts
    • tax the out of tobacco and other drugs
    • bring back trade tariffs
    • regulate the out of who's eligible to receive welfare (drug tests, etc.)

    No candidate remotely agrees with most of that.

    you left off your champion issue....legalize gay marriage on a federal level

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    lol @ this thread...while most of you people spend your time on this site trying to convince people you're sophisticated in political thought and will voting your conscience based on some moral compass of right and wrong...

    I'll be voting for Obama..all day every day...and here is my official propaganda for 2012 campaign..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY-ag...feature=relmfu

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    I'm curious what some of you are planning to do in November. Particularly those who say you don't like Obama but reserve most of your criticism for Romney/Ryan/GOP.

    So what will be your pick...

    1.) Obama
    2.) Romney
    3.) 3rd Party. Who?
    4.) Undecided
    5.) Not going to vote
    I will take the lesser of the two evils and vote for Rolls and Royce.


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    I will take the lesser of the two evils and vote for Rolls and Royce.


    RR = Racist Republican



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    Because Ryan's whole thing is the Ryan Plan. Without it he's just another congressman that no one cares about. It's his mark.
    Or is it just the only mark the liberal media tells you about?

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    Because I'm in Texas, I am voting third party in the hopes that a third party will get enough of the vote to participate more significantly in future campaigns. I would vote for Obama if I was in a state where it would be close.
    I'm hoping liberal Oregonians are so fed up with Obama that that Oregon will go republican this time. Otherwise I would go third party too. Very slim chance of that however. Portland isn't the capitol of the North Left Coast by chance. Even has a theme show called Portlandia. Most the Willamette Valley population is also liberal. That's probably about 80% of Oregon's population.

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    Or is it just the only mark the liberal media tells you about?
    once the Democratic Brass finish with Ryan he won't even have a path to the presidency in 2016...

    this is just a small start...
    He's been in Congress for nearly 13 years, but Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) has only seen two of his bills pass into law during that time. Ryan, who Mitt Romney has tapped as his running mate, passed a bill into law in July 2000 that renames a post office in his district. Thanks to Ryan, the post office on 1818 Milton Ave. in Janesville, Wis., is now known as "Les Aspin Post Office Building."
    The other time Ryan saw one of his bills become law was in December 2008, with legislation to change the way arrows (as in bows and arrows) are hit with an excise tax. Specifically, his bill amended the Internal Revenue Code to impose a 39-cent tax per arrow shaft, instead of a 12.4 percent tax on the sales price. The bill also "includes points suitable for use with arrows in the 11 percent excise tax on arrow parts and accessories."


    Kevin Seifert, Ryan's congressional spokesman, did not respond to a request for comment.
    this guy and his plan is a joke....

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    You're writing-in Limbaugh? smh
    LOL...

    Write in Limbaugh/Coulter.

    I wonder how many disenfranchised conservatives might do that?

    Ever see the Half Hour News Hour?

    Even liberals should get a laugh out of this clip:


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    /Kool...

    I see why you were pinked. Or is that punked?

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    RR = Racist Republican


    Spurfan with the RARE, RARE goods, tbh...

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