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    Paul Ryan is a pompous, faux-intellectual bag like all neocons are, and I'd love to see Mr. Math try to explain how sequestration could possibly be the same thing as spending cuts....

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    While Ryan tries to explain his plan in long winded detail, Obama will be running 20 ads in Florida showing Ryan throw grandma off a cliff. Negative campaigning works, and they are going to bury Romney/Ryan with it. The Bain and tax attacks were just the tip of the iceberg.

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    While Ryan tries to explain his plan in long winded detail, Obama will be running 20 ads in Florida showing Ryan throw grandma off a cliff. Negative campaigning works, and they are going to bury Romney/Ryan with it. The Bain and tax attacks were just the tip of the iceberg.
    Ryan has been elected 7 times with 65% or more of the vote in a District that used to be as blue as the hair in Florida.

    Ryan has a mother, on Medicare, who happens to reside in Florida.

    I think Ryan can handle himself just fine.

    Bain? Tax returns? Haven't seen or heard of them since Ryan was named running mate...and, since then, Obama has been defending himself against a de able ad and the fact that he's the one throwing Granny from the cliff by stealing from Medicare to pay for Obamacare.

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    Paul Ryan is a pompous, faux-intellectual bag like all neocons are, and I'd love to see Mr. Math try to explain how sequestration could possibly be the same thing as spending cuts....
    I think Obama's explanation of how he intended to pay for Obamacare by reducing Medicare by $500 billion over the next 10 years, will do just fine. The other $200 billion is thanks to Harry Reid being unable to get a budget up for a vote in the Senate and Obama's failed Commission to fix the economy.

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    We didn't see or hear from Willard's tax returns BEFORE the Ryan selection... nor will we ever, because he's clearly hiding some serious , tbh.....

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    Ryan has been elected 7 times with 65% or more of the vote in a District that used to be as blue as the hair in Florida.

    Ryan has a mother, on Medicare, who happens to reside in Florida.

    I think Ryan can handle himself just fine.

    Bain? Tax returns? Haven't seen or heard of them since Ryan was named running mate...and, since then, Obama has been defending himself against a de able ad and the fact that he's the one throwing Granny from the cliff by stealing from Medicare to pay for Obamacare.
    None of that is going to help him in Florida.

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    I think Obama's explanation of how he intended to pay for Obamacare by reducing Medicare by $500 billion over the next 10 years, will do just fine. The other $200 billion is thanks to Harry Reid being unable to get a budget up for a vote in the Senate and Obama's failed Commission to fix the economy.
    Ignoring the fact that Ryan's plan is a total joke
    "Reducing the rate of spending increases is the same as cutting spending, honest!"
    "Sarah Palin: great American"

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    None of that is going to help him in Florida.
    Florida seniors love them some Obama

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    Florida seniors love them some Obama
    Wait until they find out how back he's ed up Medicare and that they'll be subject to some 13-member unaccountable Death Panel deciding if they'll get certain treatments and therapies.

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    Ignoring the fact that Ryan's plan is a total joke
    How's it a joke? I've not heard that before.

    "Reducing the rate of spending increases is the same as cutting spending, honest!"
    It is when the demand will continue to grow.

    "Sarah Palin: great American"
    What's not great about her?

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    Wait until they find out how back he's ed up Medicare and that they'll be subject to some 13-member unaccountable Death Panel deciding if they'll get certain treatments and therapies.
    Then wait until they find out that the death panels are a phony neocon scare tactic!

    There are many valid criticisms of Obamacare, but that isn't one of them....

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    None of that is going to help him in Florida.
    You're right.

    What's going to help him in Florida is that seniors will finally learn it is Obama that is going to them over on their Medicare, not Romney.

    That's going to help Romney a lot.

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    Wait until they find out how back he's ed up Medicare and that they'll be subject to some 13-member unaccountable Death Panel deciding if they'll get certain treatments and therapies.
    Wait until they find out their grandchildren won't even have Medicare at all...

    lol death panels

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    Then wait until they find out that the death panels are a phony neocon scare tactic!
    The Independent Payment Advisory Board (IPAB) is very real...you can find it in the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010. Look it up.

    There are many valid criticisms of Obamacare, but that isn't one of them....
    You're right, it's a criticism of what he's doing to Medicare recipients.

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    It is when the demand will continue to grow.
    Cutting the rate of increase still means spending will increase, therefore it's not a real cut, end of story....


    What's not great about her?
    Besides her ignorance, trashy redneck family, typical boorish neocon policies, history of lying, inability to name a Supreme Court case, overinflated ego, terrible oratory skills, and nails-on-a-chalkboard voice.... there's still plenty more things that aren't great about her...

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    Wait until they find out their grandchildren won't even have Medicare at all...
    , their children weren't even going to have it under Obama's plan.

    lol death panels
    Call it what you will, the IPAB was formed to hold Medicare costs down by rationing care. I don't care how you paint that pig.

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    Besides her ignorance, trashy redneck family, typical boorish neocon policies, history of lying, inability to name a Supreme Court case, overinflated ego, terrible oratory skills, and nails-on-a-chalkboard voice.... there's still plenty more things that aren't great about her...
    I see you're being kind

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    , their children weren't even going to have it under Obama's plan.
    lol narratives. There's only one party running on destroying Medicare in the name of "smaller government", that's your team. We'll see how that appeals to voters in general.

    If there's something Republicans love it's their en lements.

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    lol narratives. There's only one party running on destroying Medicare in the name of "smaller government", that's your team. We'll see how that appeals to voters in general.
    There's only one party running that has destroyed Medicare to pay for another unaffordable en lement, that's your team.

    What is Obama's plan to save Medicare?

    , what is Obama's plan to reduce the deficit and debt?

    He just keeps ing spending and spending and spending.

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    Why are people outraged over Obama wanting to spend more on healthcare for young people and less on old people who only have a few years left and have nothing left to contribute.

    this country going bankrupt to keep old people alive

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    Why are people outraged over Obama wanting to spend more on healthcare for young people and less on old people who only have a few years left and have nothing left to contribute.

    this country going bankrupt to keep old people alive
    Are you a member of the IPAB?

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    Are you a member of the IPAB?
    What's the IPAB?

    Why do you think a country as leveraged as America should be spending billions to keep people in their 80s alive?

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    Wait until they find out how back he's ed up Medicare and that they'll be subject to some 13-member unaccountable Death Panel deciding if they'll get certain treatments and therapies.
    It's strange that blue team is trying desperately to scare old people, yet old people voted overwhelmingly for GOP in 2010.

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    There's only one party running that has destroyed Medicare to pay for another unaffordable en lement, that's your team.
    I don't have a team, like the ACA or support it at all. As a matter of fact, I stated so many times.

    The fact is the Ryan's plan is about as bad or even tier (depending on which version of the plan you're talking about), and addresses cost by passing it on to seniors. In other words, destroys their coverage over time.

    The ACA sucks, but it can be modified to make it workable without opening the door of destroying medicare in the process.

    Again, there's only one party running on destroying medicare for future generations under the "smaller government" mantra. Start that one.

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    It's strange that blue team is trying desperately to scare old people, yet old people voted overwhelmingly for GOP in 2010.
    That makes no sense. The Ryan plan doesn't change Medicare for seniors. Anybody 55 or younger should certainly be afraid.

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