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    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
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    What's the IPAB?

    Why do you think a country as leveraged as America should be spending billions to keep people in their 80s alive?
    Don't you *DARE* suggesting taking away older people's en lements!

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    Don't you *DARE* suggesting taking away older people's en lements!
    We're the baby boomers and we'll be damned if we don't get every government en lement available

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    We're the baby boomers and we'll be damned if we don't get every government en lement available
    smaller government only for you, young mister!

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    smaller government only for you, young mister!
    You young'uns better be ready to pay for my retirement and medicare

    I want small government except for when I need the government to finance retirement I didn't save for

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    BTW, Gallup poll on the Ryan VP pick...

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    But the conservative blogs Yoni reads said it was a great pick!

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    But the conservative blogs Yoni reads said it was a great pick!
    to be fair, I personally don't give a lot of credit to individual polls.... anybody can draw their own conclusions...

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    That poll just reminded me about the waive of stupidity that hit America with its initial praise of Sarah Palin

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    That poll just reminded me about the waive of stupidity that hit America with its initial praise of Sarah Palin
    tbh, I was out of the country and completely missed it. When I came back and started hearing the interviews and , I was like: "WTF????"

    I'm actually going to head out again next month for a couple of weeks, hopefully saving me from more baloney ads and conventions...

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    , I'm sure glad that wasn't skewed by Democrats polled.

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    All that said, I was reading VPs only marginally change the race.. at the very top is a 2% swing historically (or very bottom -2% swing). I'm pretty sure neither Ryan or Biden will matter much

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    tbh, I was out of the country and completely missed it. When I came back and started hearing the interviews and , I was like: "WTF????"

    I'm actually going to head out again next month for a couple of weeks, hopefully saving me from more baloney ads and conventions...
    They didn't/don't have TV in Mexico?

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    smaller government only for you, young mister!
    "Small government for young punk kids, incredibly large government for me at home and against scary brown people abroad!"

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    They didn't/don't have TV in Mexico?
    Nor radio... these are things we know...

    But I wasn't in Mexico anyways...

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    It's strange that blue team is trying desperately to scare old people, yet old people voted overwhelmingly for GOP in 2010.
    Ummm... what? Team Red's entire platform is based on scaring the out of rednecks and the elderly, tbh.... "vote for us or the illegal commie black female gay atheists and their army of scary brown people that hate us will take over the country and steal your Medicare!"

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    Ummm... what? Team Red's entire platform is based on scaring the out of rednecks and the elderly, tbh.... "vote for us or the illegal commie black female gay atheists and their army of scary brown people that hate us will take over the country and steal your Medicare!"
    if you say so

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    Should be pretty easy when Paul Ryan simply explains it's Obama's $716 billion in cuts and a 13-member, unelected Death Panel that's going to throw Granny from the cliff, not the Romney/Ryan plan to leave Medicare alone for those 55 and older.

    Democrats are starting to realize they're losing the Mediscare argument.

    The Democrats’ Growing Medicare Dilemma
    Principled Republicans once disdained scaring seniors. So much for that.

    It’s clear the Romney campaign fully anticipated an attack on Rep. Paul Ryan’s Medicare reform proposal. Its premeditated response so far has been quite clever.


    Step one: Remind voters of Obamacare’s cuts to — the “raid” on! — Medicare. Step two: Promise to restore those “arbitrary” cuts. Step three: Characterize Romney-Ryan Medicare reform proposal — which reduces spending below current law by 35-45 percent), but not until 10 years from now — as a means of strengthening, not cutting, the program. (To hear this argument more fully fleshed out, see James C. Capretta and Yuval Levin.)


    Never asked, let alone answered, is the question that if Romney’s Medicare reforms are so painless, why not demand that current beneficiaries accept them? Why is it necessary to spare them from structural reforms that are so self-evidently “sensible” (Capretta’s word)? (To his credit, Reihan Salam indeed calls for a faster timetable for the premium-support changeover.)


    That this Orwellian gambit is being pitched as the bold, courageous, grown-up alternative to politics as usual is, on its face, pretty astonishing.
    But I’ve long since lost the ability to be astonished by Mitt Romney and Eric Fehrnstrom’s cynicism.
    http://www.theamericanconservative.c...-sharp-relief/

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    That is sort of my problem today....no principled Republicans anymore.

    Haven't been many principled Democrats for some time, bit both teams are essentially amoral anymore when it comes to getting elected.

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    That is sort of my problem today....no principled Republicans anymore.


    Haven't been many principled Democrats for some time

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    Guess I don't really consider Paul a Republican...the Libertarian that admittedly runs as Republican but doesn't really seem to be one.

    Is that Kucinich? Serious question...I'm not sure who it is. If it is Kucinich, I may stand corrected...but I honestly don't know enough about him to judge one way or another.

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    We didn't see or hear from Willard's tax returns BEFORE the Ryan selection... nor will we ever, because he's clearly hiding some serious , tbh.....
    lol @ clearly.

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    The Independent Payment Advisory Board (IPAB) is very real...
    Wow, one misplaced consonant, and Apple could've sued them into oblivion.

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    "he's clearly hiding some serious "

    That's exactly how everybody who's not a Gecko-sucker sees it.

    Same with his destruction/secreting of his MA governor and Olympic records.

    Gecko is a real sicko about secrecy.

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    "he's clearly hiding some serious "

    That's exactly how everybody who's not a Gecko-sucker sees it.

    Same with his destruction/secreting of his MA governor and Olympic records.

    Gecko is a real sicko about secrecy.
    lol confirmation bias. Everyone's wrong except me!

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    Here's Gecko's "reasoning" how "small minded
    people should be concerned other "big stuff" rather Gecko's secret tax returns

    “I just have to say, given the challenges that America faces — 23 million people out of work, Iran about to become nuclear, one out of six Americans in poverty — the fascination with taxes I paid I find to be very small minded compared to the broad issues that we face,” Romney explained.

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/08/1...s-tax-returns/

    He an amazingly inept, wooden-tonged liar. "small minded" includes 10Ms of voters who want to see his tax returns, his MA governor records, his Olympic records.

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